[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2008-09-30 Thread Duncan Lithgow
** Description changed: - Deleted my post, it was incorrect. + Reopening this bug. + + In Ubuntu 8.10 (Alpha 6) importing dv over firewire does not just work + with Kino 1.3.0 + + I'm back at the familiar message: WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not + loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2008-09-30 Thread Dan Dennedy
Kino has not supported video1394 for years. You are meaning dv1394 when you write video1394. Also, why do you think I did not enable that option by default? The answer is that it imposes major usability issues. The new firewire subsystem and libraw1394 2.0 have resolved the security issue with

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2008-09-30 Thread Stefan Richter
Duncan Lithgow wrote: Reopening this bug. In Ubuntu 8.10 (Alpha 6) importing dv over firewire does not just work with Kino 1.3.0 I'm back at the familiar message: WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394 My first guess is that this is because

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2008-05-29 Thread eks
Capturing DV video over the desktop should be straightforward, just like downloading pictures from a camera. This is directly related to bug #1, the Firewire port should be used by applications just like USB port. -- use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/6290

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2008-05-29 Thread Stefan Richter
Security enhanced replacement drivers are being worked on since last year, but not yet ready for prime time. It is possible with these drivers to let scripts assign different device file permissions based on the type of FireWire device ( - finer grained device security). These drivers also

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2007-08-02 Thread Jeff Fortin
Syslog tells me this (I'm capturing in gutsy using dvgrab), which makes me wonder if the thing is really fixed. From what I understand, it tells me that the dv1394 device is not to be used in the near future, making the whole thing break again? Does this bug need to be reopened? Aug 2 00:36:37

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2007-08-02 Thread Stefan Richter
I wrote: The unsupported isochronous request types in raw1394 that dvgrab 1.x can use alternatively to dvgrab1394 should read ...to dv1394 dvgrab-2.1.tgz should read dvgrab-2.1.tar.gz -- use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/6290 You received this bug

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2007-08-02 Thread Stefan Richter
Jeff, that's evidently a very old version of dvgrab. File a bug for the dvgrab package --- it should be updated to version 2.1. Yes, the dv1394 driver will eventually vanish. But there is no date set for its removal yet; it depends on how fast the new alternative FireWire stack which was merged

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2007-03-11 Thread Duncan Lithgow
Ubuntu 7.04 and Kino 0.9.2 both use /dev/dv1394/0 which means that this bug can be closed - so that's what I'm doing. It works fine for me with my DV Camera capturing over firewire so I guess it works generally. If you're settings are not using /dev/dv1394/0 then please reopen this bug. If you

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2007-03-11 Thread Duncan Lithgow
Fixed in Ubuntu 7.04 ** Changed in: kino (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394 https://launchpad.net/bugs/6290 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Richter
As I understood it, address based filtering could/would have been done with the multiple files approach too. However the capabilities based approach sounds really good. AFAICS it achieves basically the same in a simpler way. Simpler = more secure. I think the multi-file approach would allow to

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-09-02 Thread Stefan Richter
A note on /dev/raw1394's security implications: 1. You cannot access local memory through raw1394, except for ROMs and CSRs that are exposed to other nodes any way. 2. It is extremely hard to manipulate data on attached SBP-2 devices (FireWire storage devices). 3. You can disturb operation of

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-09-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
As it was explained to me, it's possible to construct a Firewire device that loops back #4, providing access to the RAM of the machine that originated the requests. -- use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394 https://launchpad.net/bugs/6290 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-09-02 Thread Stefan Richter
Yes, you are right. Actually, a cheap setup to achieve #1 by #4 is to have two FireWire controllers in the PC and connect them. -- use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394 https://launchpad.net/bugs/6290 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-09-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
So there we go ;) access to /dev/raw1394 gives you access to the entire host machine ... which is why only root can do it -- use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394 https://launchpad.net/bugs/6290 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-09-02 Thread Stefan Richter
Except if you don't load ohci1394 or load ohci1394 with the parameter phys_dma=0. Switching physical DMA off will work fine with raw1394, dv1394, video1394... It will just break sbp2 until I get http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6393 fixed. (It's not high on my list, and it is a nuisance

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-07-07 Thread Duncan Lithgow
** Description changed: - When trying to import video from an iee1394 device, kino is not able to - access /dev/raw1394, so by default, if a user wants to import video from - him/her camera, he/she needs to run kino with sudo o gsudo. - - I think that apt should print a warning like You should

[Bug 6290] Re: use /dev/video1394, not /dev/raw1394

2006-07-06 Thread Duncan Lithgow
Using 6.06 with Kino 0.9 the only thing giving me problems is that udev doesn't seem to create any device node for ieee1394. At least neither raw1394 nor dv1394 are created until I modprobe them. Other than that small glitch with udev I can capture with dv1394 without being root. Should I file a