I think this is a really bad design decision. It forcefully jars with
my workflow of using multiple workspaces for the same application (a
browser in my case).
I.e., it's really easy to find the window you need on your current
workspace (in which case you really don't need the spread), but it's
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But WHY you have to remove the behaviour of the scale plugin to show windows
from all workspaces?
and WHY you also remove the feature from CCSM by changing the wrong command
binding??
for me (and about 131 other users) this behaviour absolutely a regression in
12.04 for my workflow!
please
and please could someone explain me why you change the behaviour of the scale
plugin command binding?
this bug has nothing to do with the command binding, as it was meant to
change the behaviour when the user clicks on the icon of a running app in the
launcher! or am i wrong?
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Posted a forum thread here to try to discover if there is a workaround
from the community...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1976347
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The main issue as I see it, is not that the default is now to restrict
task-switching/scale to one workspace, but that there is now *no* option
at all to search for windows across workspaces. Now if a user doesn't
remember where they put a window, they must search through each
workspace.
I completely agree with the last few posts. This is a big regression
for me.
Here is are two very common use cases which are now greatly hampered.
Please put Scale back to normal so that global discovery of windows is
possible...
Use Case 1
User is working on word processing in
Like Rishi I also miss this in 12.04. Hope there will be an easy fix in
the near future to get the old behaviour back.
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This is by far the most annoying change in unity. I'm a casual user. I
loved the workspace separation. And the fact that I could just pull up
all the windows of one application together, instead of trying to
remember where I left what window.
With tabs in browsers, multiple instances of the
Oh and good luck finding a window which is minimized. It wont even show
in the Super+s overview.
This is so retarded. And frustrating, that some of us can't see the
glaring disadvantages of the changed system.
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Bowman
choice is good
I hope the ability to easily configure continues to expand in unity
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so basically you want to dictate to those of us who actually use
multiple workspaces as an organizational tool, how we use them?
Yes my thought exactly of what you tried to do and I hope you see it
now. I just had to turn the table.
I asked you a simple question in an effort to try to understand
I understand you
insisting you're right is not an example
that's opinion
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insisting you're right is not an example
that's opinion
Yes, but we both are insisting aren't we? ;) But i am glad we finally
understand each other!
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oh I understand what you are about
still not a clue what use you have for workspaces, can't see that there is a
mystical way for me to divine your workflow
I've watched 10 different people [older less computer literate] use a G2 DE
8 had no use for WS's
2 said cool used ws as an organizational
Garthhh, there is no right or wrong here and working in an organized way
neither means a one workspace approach nor to isolate spread functions
to the current workspace. That is more a Canonical adaptation, that I
support, to new users until now used (forced) to that way of working.
Some as myself
I'm trying to understand other ways workspaces can be used
I don't, because i do understand what application spread should do in
multi workspace environment. It should show windows from all workspaces
not hide them.
if you expect to see all windows from all workspaces
why would you use more than
It's like saying ti users how should they arrange their desktops and
how you don't understand they arrange it differently.
Correction:
It's like saying to the users how should they arrange their desktop
icons and how you don't understand that they arrange it differently.
It's nothing to
so basically you want to dictate to those of us who actually use
multiple workspaces as an organizational tool, how we use them?
I asked you a simple question in an effort to try to understand your point of
view
how do you use multiple workspaces that is different than having only one?
you're
my impression is that you don't have any use for the extra layer of
organization that having more than one workspace provides
Well you are wrong. I just don't use PC for limited predefined number of
tasks and i don't think often how exactly my task should be placed
across different workspaces.
I
if you expect to see all windows from all workspaces
why would you use more than one WS?
that makes no sense
I'm trying to understand other ways workspaces can be used
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Ego could you describe what you mean by using workspaces more
dynamically?
Pressing the button on the launcher and to have all opened instances of
the same application summoned in front of me. The way it worked until
Ubuntu 12.04.
I don't feel the need doing that instead of the Shell and to
my impression is that you don't have any use for the extra layer of
organization that having more than one workspace provides
I understand
this morning I'm on a 10.10 gnome 2 notebook, It only has 2 ws
I can't even remember the last time the 2nd one was open
most of the time I don't have more
I think user should not have to think where exactly windows are opened.
Shell should do that instead of the user.
I use different workspaces:
- Sometimes different workspace is used for separate task.
-Sometimes i just use different workspaces because i just want to have windows
maximized on
I see we will get new behavior in the future release:
http://design.canonical.com/2012/03/task-switching-in-ubuntu-and-a
-introduction-to-the-spread/
I see that workspaces will be disabled by default. Kind of expected yes,
but when enabled i found this:
The user want to get hold of the Inkscape
ego wrote:
but still they could repeat them self across different workspaces but be used
for different tasks? Then i would have to do a lot of thinking where something
i opened is wouldn't i?
it wouldn't in any case. I'm a teacher and I use 6 workspaces, each for
a specific task (2 for each of
I use workspaces way more dynamically. Maybe if i would have PC for one
specific group of tasks that would be fixed on different workspaces and
would not change...
And still i would expect to have application spread across all the
workspaces because i would not have to think where is what and why
Ego could you describe what you mean by
using workspaces more dynamically?
I'm hoping that 12.04 brings stability something usable
I'm giving KDE a new try on my test box
I have the launchers of my choice where I want them, in the order I want them
[ a full menu]
I have a windows switcher that
The only thing fixing this bug changed is broken workflow for users
that use more than one workspace and in return users that use only one
didn't gain nothing.
-User that use only one workplace had the exact same behavior before this was
changed.
-User that actually use more workspaces has
you're missing the point
I use workspaces as self contained entities
when i'm working on a task on a workspace, I don't care about instances of a
program that are open somewhere else
as a matter of fact I'm not sure why that would be useful?
at the moment 3 different people are using this
@Ego:
The Aim of workspaces is the SEPARATION of different tasks. I really don't like
to see things going on on other workspaces, they are distracting me. And I also
hate switching the workspace accidentally by clicking on an icon belonging to
another workspace.
but ok, users are different.
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workspace in the
As there are strong opinions on both sides, please can this be added as
a preference in the new behaviour tab of the Appearance settings window?
Alt Tab is not the same tool, as it does not filter by application.
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I tested a bit these new single workspace approach. I see two
problems:
User has to know where open windows are and switch to that
workspace/screen. This leads to a lot off unnecessary seek/hide
operations and additional burden on the user.
User selects Quit in Quicklist and it closes all
User selects Quit in Quicklist and it closes all running instances of
application across all workspaces and there is no indication some open
instances from this group of application exist because user can't summon
them all on working space.
I agree that this could be dangerous, please fill a
IIRC, we do plan to support a view showing all the windows of an app
across all workspaces, but I don't think this is implemented to spec yet.
Mark
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That would be great! Ability to summon all opened instances of the same
application in working workspace and to switch between them fast is
superb and if this ability won't be lost in Unity Shell and it will stay
supported i would really appreciate it.
Now if only Dodge Windows alike
IIRC, we do plan to support a view showing all the windows of an app
across all workspaces, but I don't think this is implemented to spec yet.
This would be great ;)
One more question:
Does this new approach. basic views etc limited to the current workspace,
include e.g launching of
Agree upon that this really is a poor decision.
Linux is a multi-workspace operating system and this has to be
considered on designing features.
Assume the following as one of examples:
- the user has set up a number of workspaces
- a nautilus window exists on two or more workspaces
This design
Why are you fixing bugs that are flagship features lately? Who will
benefit from these fix?
Ability to summon all opened instances of the same application in
working workspace is superb? Why on earth was it consider as bug in
the first place?
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Of course, there are strong opinions on both sides of this. Here's the
rationale for the decision to have alt-tab focus on apps running within
the workspace:
* the rationale for workspaces in the first place is the separation of
groups of tasks
* people who use workspaces have mental /
@Mark: I'm sorry to have to disagree with you in this matter.
The following makes sense
- spread för all applications windows in current workspace (alt-tab)
- spread for a specific application's windows incl all workspaces
However, this does not make much sense
- spread for a specific
Wasn't this addressed with biass alt-tab sorting setting? I respect
different opinions and i usually find arguments are valid on both sides
when strong opinions emerge about something.
Couldn't biass alt-tab sorting be improved? For example it could be
removed and replaced with option Only show
the loss of this functionality, is much like removing the ability to nest files
within folders
without this level of organization, workspaces are redundant to windows
this is a key feature, which differentiates linux from other operating systems
don't throw the baby out with the bath water...
I would like someone to open this bug once again, or to revert to the
last behavior of alt tab in all workspaces, i don't know if someone did
not consider that when pressing alt + tab and selecting show desktop it
would trigger the show desktop in all workspaces turning all the
applications in
For everyone who wants to have a dock, but with workspaces that behaves
like they traditionally have (or if you just want to see how workspaces
in unity should have been), try docky. It has a gconf option for showing
only windows on the current workspace. I've been using it for a couple
of years
Posting here previously was to no avail, certainly now even less so. But -
There have been previous design decisions that while many, myself
included, didn't like or appreciate, it wasn't hard to see that they
made sense overall were for the best.
This isn't one of them by any stretch, it is
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This bug was fixed in the package unity - 5.2.0-0ubuntu1
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* New upstream release.
- Unity needs a way to switch (tab) between windows on current workspace
(LP: #863399)
- compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in
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** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/compiz/scale-hotkeys-change
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
Status: In Progress = Invalid
** Changed in: compiz
Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)
** Changed in: compiz
Status: Invalid = In Progress
** Changed in: compiz
** Changed in: unity
Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
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Added also ubuntu package compiz-plugins-main, since the Ctrl+W shortcut
should be edited there. Also maybe the current shortcut (to show all
windows available) should be moved to Ctrl+Shift+W to still allow to
scale all the windows.
** Also affects: compiz-plugins-main (Ubuntu)
Importance:
** Changed in: unity
Assignee: Jason Smith (jassmith) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)
** Changed in: unity
Status: Confirmed = In Progress
** Changed in: unity
Milestone: backlog = 5.0.0
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = In Progress
** Changed in:
** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/ubuntu/precise/compiz/scale-hotkeys-change
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = In Progress
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** Changed in: unity
Assignee: (unassigned) = Jason Smith (jassmith)
** Changed in: ayatana-design
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No, the bug description is correct, the proposal in comment 4 should not
be implemented.
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is there a problem with choice?
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To
A fix has been merged quite a while ago which fixes this bug as outlined
in the description (see
https://code.launchpad.net/~sao/unity/spread_windows_workspace/+merge/66200).
Is this now confirmed that it should be implemented the way as it is
described in comment 4?
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setting back to confirmed as I believe no one is currently working on it
** Changed in: unity
Assignee: Oliver Sauder (sao) = (unassigned)
** Changed in: unity
Status: In Progress = Confirmed
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** Changed
Yes, the behaviour in comment four makes the most sense to me as well.
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It would be helpful to stick with one behavior, with a setting somewhere
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If the fix released is intended to change the behavior as described in
comment 4 then that's an extremely poor decision that makes no sense
whatsoever
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Status: In Progress = Invalid
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Assignee: Unity Community Hackers (unity-community-hackers) = Oliver
Sauder (sao)
** Changed in: unity
Status: Confirmed = In Progress
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = In Progress
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned)
** Also affects: compiz
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: compiz
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: compiz
Assignee: (unassigned) = Oliver Sauder (sao)
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** Description changed:
- Binary package hint: unity
+ When performing a window spread, only windows in the current workspace
+ should be displayed. This applies to both the 'App spread' and the
+ 'Current workspace' spread.
- When using multiple workspaces on the classic desktop, the window
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Removed irrelevant system information.
** Description changed:
Binary package hint: unity
When using multiple workspaces on the classic desktop, the window list
only displays windows that are on the current workspace.
When using Unity with multiple workspaces, clicking an icon in
** Branch linked: lp:~bitshifternz/unity/fix-for-bug-688117
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Well if this ends up one way or the other only (all spaces or just
current) and nothing like a modifier key available then it would be nice
if this could be done as a gsetting (value all or current
If it does end up as 'current space only' from the icon (no user mod
available), then at the
Yes, a gsetting key is possible, or just toggle by number of clicks: First,
just show windows from with workspace, and then, with another click on the
icon, show windows from all workspaces.
(or, to be more precise like it is nearly now: 1. click: last used window, 2.
click: windows from this
Not sure why you want to 'kill' a useful feature of scale - pull all open same
app windows to the window picker.
It does work as described in post 4 which will account for the windows on the
current workspace just fine.
And there are keyboard shortcuts available for the other scale actions
that
@#9:
Sorry, for me, it doesn't:
When clicked application is already active: First click shows windows from ALL
workspaces
When another application is active: First click shows ONLY the last active
window on current workspace.
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there this is discussed with only one window per workspace.
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I would rather have the the new enhanced features be optional, sometimes
more is not better
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This bug is awaiting design feedback before progress can be made.
Confirming that there is a question to be answered. Will be marked
triaged when design gives a suitable direction forward.
** Changed in: unity
Status: Incomplete = Confirmed
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Status:
In fact, the current sequence is:
- first click: show only windows from the current ws
- second click: show all windows from all ws
- third click: hide everything.
1. However, if you already see all windows from the current ws, the first click
just go to step 2 (show all windows from all ws).
2.
I think with some kind of a hint that a second click will reveal some
more windows, that could be a very elegant solution.
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