@Ed Lin
You sure come across as a dictator from Canonical to me (in fact to be honest
I've seen better dealings from Canonical at times).
What gives you the impression that keeping the current behaviour is not
possible for a dock? Also, why call it a dock, if it's not supposed to
be one? Also,
@Roland
I thought I had explained it sufficiently. I do not work for Canonical. I only
represent myself and my opinions here. I too am not happy with the global menu
for example or the general Mac copying that has been going on in the Unity
design team (which I'm not part of). I merely pointed
@Ed Lin
I got carried away for no reason, sorry for that. But I still think it is very
important and intuitive to hide/minimize application on next click, it is
incomplete without it. All the reasons have been said.
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@Ed Lin:
1. Why not discuss it here? The bug has opinion status, meaning:
Opinion says: there’s a difference of opinion around this bug and people are
free to continue the discussion, but the project or package maintainers need to
move to other work and are considering the issue closed.
@Bazon
1.) Unity is a special case as it has its dedicated opinion list, other
packages have no better place than the bug tracker.
The problem with discussing it here *as well' is that it splits the
discussion, I'd have to repost everything to both. I feel the email form
is better suited for a
I do not get this. It sounds to me like some kind of Win/Mac clone
speech. You seriously want to say to community a Dock CAN'T... I
thought Linux was better than that, it was built to CAN. Minimizing
application is logical, it is reasonable it has been done before. Just
give us somewhere option
@Rasto
I think you are misunderstanding me. All I was saying is that the launcher is
different and can't replicate the functionality of a taskbar 100%. Single-click
top-hierarchy per-window minimizing simply is impossible to do in a dock. If
you add that feature the dock automatically becomes
One thing is certain, the old taskbar window minimizing behavior is not
coming back unless the whole taskbar makes it back into Unity. An
application dock simply doesn't work that way, like it or not.
AWN, docky, cario-dock and OSX (afaik) all do this ??
The only dock i can think of that
One click to launch, one click to show, one click to hide them (and in the
darkness bind them). Wheel scroll to switch between instances of the same
applications and middle click to launch another instance.
In other words, just copy AWN.
One thing is certain, the old taskbar window minimizing
@Bazon, KillerKiwi, The Fiddler
Please join the mailing list if you want to discuss this further, I've
just posted a mail on topic, not yet in the public archive ([Ayatana]
Unity with window-centric launcher).
A Dock CAN'T, by design, offer the kind of minimizing feature a taskbar has:
Single
Since clicking the unity icon displays all open instances of a program, how
about this:
Change clicking the unity icon to minimize all open windows of the program
instead. Then make it so that middle clicking the icon brings up all open
windows. If you want to minimize just one window out of
Or at least make it so that if there is only one window open, then
clicking the icon will minimize.
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Title:
Minimize windows upon clicking
@JC: Or keep the traditional one click to show, two to hide, and make
the expose view a double click. I'm always skeptical about overusing
other mouse buttons (and Apple, who know a thing or two about usability,
still haven't quite abandoned their single button mouse).
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I think the ayatana mailing list is better suited for this kind of discussion.
Just this:
@JC, @Michael
Both suggestions are too complicated, also middle click is already occupied for
launching a new instance/window. What about minimizing the whole app (all its
windows) from the context menu
Ed Lin wrote 1 hour ago:#71
(...) An application dock simply doesn't work that way, like it or not.
(...)
Eh, they actually do, or at least offer that option. E.g. the fabulous
Cairo-Dock.
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For anyone who is interested: I've improve my script. Now it minimize all
instances of the same app.
See:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/36433/why-cant-i-use-the-unity-launcher-icon-to-minimize-applications-windows/39851#39851
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+1 for the minimise function.
Also, @MarkShuttleworth is wrong when he says clicking on the icon
ALWAYS ensures you SEE the app..
e.g. If you elect to have windows focus when the mouse moves over them
(very useful trad. GNU feature) then here's what happens:
1. You have -say- firefox open, but
Since this report seems to be open for discussion, I'll add my two
cents. I would also like to see this feature. I find the minimise button
to be quite small and too close to the close button. It's easy to miss
it and accidentally closing the application.
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I vote for this feature too. I have a FHD display and am tired of
squinting my eyes to locate minimize every time I want to minimize.
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@André: the workarround does not work as expected (at least to me)
because it does not focus the window before minimizing it (if I have a
window on second plane, I need two clicks to give focus to it).
@Extender: please, don't change the bug status on ayatana-design. Leave
this task to someone
@Marco: I've improved it. Could you try? See the new version at:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/36433/why-cant-i-use-the-unity-launcher-
icon-to-minimize-applications-windows/39851#39851
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BUG is still there in the final Natty and it's a bit annoying to click on the
launcher of a maximized window and nothing happens, i expect that the window
minimizes.
why there is no option in the unity plugin of compiz where all the users which
don't like actual behaviour could change that?
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This also affects me. I agree with above, at minimum, it would be great
if this was an option available in compiz-config.
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Title:
Minimize
I've made a script to workaround this issue. See at askubuntu:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/36433/why-cant-i-use-the-unity-launcher-icon-to-minimize-applications-windows/39851#39851
See this working: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfLxVsvUZTs .
**Simplified Instructions**
**1)** We
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Status: Incomplete = Confirmed
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Title:
Minimize windows upon clicking application's launcher
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I don't see any complications with minimizing active window by left-
click on it's icon in Windows 7 or KDE or Gnome. So yes, for me it is a
unity bug.
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Design team and Mark: please, consider this. :)
REASONS FOR THE CHANGE:
The current behaviour is consistent, because it *always* show the
window(s) of given application when the launcher icon is clicked.
However, it breaks user expectation in some situations, when clicking
the launcher icon does
Marco Biscaro on Ayatana Mailing List
(https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05553.html)
It's very simple: there is one dash to one launcher icon. The same for
indicators: one menu for each indicator.
Again, the problem with launcher icons is: each application can have
zero or more windows.
Have to agree with the commenters that clicking should minimise the app.
I may want to quickly glance at something in Firefox, whilst, say,
working in the terminal. I click a nice largish icon on the dock to
bring Firefox to the front, read some text, then I should be able to
click the icon again
This is now the bug with most affected users in ayanta design.
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Yes.. It would be nice if the minimize option is also incorporated for
launchers.
Also there could be possibly animations like Awn manager.
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This is a problem for me since I'm using touchscreen, using unity icon
to minimize is much more finger friendly than using the tiny minimize
icon.
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Yes, this desperately needs to be fixed. I'm quite a fan of Unity
myself, but nothing infuriates me more than this. I hope this is being
discussed on the mailing list. :)
Bring this feature back, or at the very least, give us the option to
enable it.
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I agree that clicking on it should minimise. it's really annoying to
have to click on the minimise button and i find the attitude portrayed
by the staff of oh, we don't want that. we won't fix it to be
atrocious especially when there are so many comments that show the user
base would prefer this
Please consider this: I click an icon (say a browser) to see if anything
new has appeared inside it. If not, I immediately reclick to minimize
that window and resume my previous work.
By breaking the symmetry of show/minimize, I now have to move the mouse
before I can resume work. What was an
Here's another reason for needing this expected functionality. I have my
email open maximised. I also have another window which has focus. I want
minimize the email window to use something below or for some other
reason (I personally use a large resolution screen, so am not just using
one window
if people keep wanting this feature it should be an option, at least
otherwise it clearly becomes an 'if you don't like it, don't use Ubuntu'
ultimatum
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Until Unity gets a more easily accessible minimize function, you can use
Alt-F9 which minimizes the current window (or assign another keyboard
shortcut).
And for windows that can't be minimized there's Lower winow below other
windows. There's no keyboard shortcut for this (it's not even in the
I meant to say and it's IMO very nice to have *in* Gnome 2 in my
comment. I think Unity is very nice, except for a few limitations and
bugs :)
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This bug needs to be changed back to Unity launcher buttons should allow to
minimize apps, not just
launch/restore
Here's why: https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05594.html
The launcher follows an app-centric paradigm like OS X and the dock. I
doubt a lot of thought went into this when
It's annoying that I can't minimize any app by just clicking/scrolling
them on launcher... like in others desktop environments!
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Title:
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Sorry, it was late night and I might expressed myself complicated.
It looks like only Bazon got what I wanted to say.
My proposed behavior is exactly the same as it works right now, but
there is that extra enhancement, when nothing happens anymore. Here it
is once more:
+ when multiple windows
How about one click to either minimize a single window or go into
expose mode for multiple windows with an addition click to minimize??
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Unity launcher's behavior is terrible.
It does not make sense and is absolutely not intuitive.
I have just let 4 people to play around with Ubuntu 11.04.
There was about 10 things they did not get.
One of them was always unexpected behavior of launcher.
They wanted that it does something.
They
Maybe expose can be more useful and show the options the user wants. So
i made this quick mockup just to get an idea of the possibilities.
i think is win win for both parties :)
note:
am not so good at mockups, so i hope is not too terrible :o
** Attachment added: expose-better.png
@Rasto: Too many clicks and differents behaviors in your proposed, keep
simple and cool. Spread Mode show all the windows when are too many
apps.
Like i say up...
Actual behavior in Unity:
1. Clicking an icon of a focused (maximize) window: Does nothing (?)
2. Clicking an icon of a minimize
@Cont3mpo:
Rasto's proposed behaviour IS simple, don't get confused by all the cases and
explanations he mentioned:
basically, it IS the current behaviour
+ minimize at the click when currently nothing happens anymore
+ the cycle.
So I agree with Rasto... ...apart that from
I can only re-iterate my suggestion from earlier, with a slight
alteration:
If we had a Windows 7-style window selector displayed on hover then the
behaviour could be:
1) Open/restore window(s)
2) On hover, display window selector alongside icon
3) On click, minimise all windows
This would both
btw, this would be a nice additional option to the Launcher and Menus
Setting which momentary only include one single solitude option (show
the launcher when the pointer:): http://i.imgur.com/f4q6k.png
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Now on Unity:
1. Clicking an icon of a focused (maximize) window: Does nothing (?)
2. Clicking an icon of a minimize window: Does Maximizes (intuitive)
3. Clicking an icon with two or more windows: Spread Mode of the windows
(really nice)
Then, why the Launcher maximize one window but not
http://askubuntu.com/questions/36433/why-cant-i-use-the-unity-launcher-
icon-to-minimize-applications-windows
Not gonna happen? Why not? DockbarX allows you to do that same thing...
Futhermore, compiz 0.9 is SUPPOSED to support showing minimized window
thumbnails. Why would it be so hard?
I
I want to add a typical case to the Issue François described:
François Tissandier wrote 21 hours ago: #22
I forgot about this multi-windows option...
But playing with it brings me to the same conclusion:
-I have 3 terminals on my desktop
-i click the lens, it shows me an expose view of
Another approach could be:
MAKE IT AN OPTION!
Hide the option however you could, so that the normal user will never
see it, but give at least us Fanboys the option.
The thing I can't stand on apple computers is, that apple dictates the
users how to use the computer. Canonical seems to go that
** Summary changed:
- Add 'minimize all windows' option to the quicklist of running applications
+ Minimize windows upon clicking application's launcher
** Description changed:
- Add a 'Minimize all windows' option to the quicklist of all running
- applications. The structure of the quicklist
I'm the original reporter for this bug/request report and I still
believe (after I've read all the above comments) that minimizing upon
clicking the launcher's icon would make sense, be great and would not be
disruptive in any workflow I can imagine.
That being said, I had a chance to play with a
A show desktop icon on unity launcher by default will solve the problem
to some extent as it will minimize all active windows in one click and
bring focus on a clean desktop. There is a keyboard shortcut alt+ctrl+d
that does the same thing but not everyone is used to keyboard shortcuts.
But this
I could imagine a longer (two seconds?) click on the launcher icon
hiding all windows for an application.
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Yes, we'll also consider a show-desktop launcher icon.
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+1 for show desktop icon/function (but there's another bug report - and
some workarounds with compiz settings - for this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/681348)
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