I have experienced a similar bug removing largish video files (about 4GB
or so) from an internal SATA drive formatted with an xfs filesystem.
Sometimes when doing an rm -rf on a directory on that file system, the
rm will hang and remain pegged at 100% cpu usage. As opposed to other
posters in
Since this report is about ext4 and you're having problems with xfs, you
really should open a separate report...
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Soft lockups (freezes)
It seems like the fix has been released for this but I am still having
this problem. I can copy large files (around 15-20 gig) to a NTFS hard
drive and there is no problem. However when I try to copy same files to
an internal hard drive which uses ext4, the system freezes. I am using
Karmic with
However when I try to copy same files to an internal hard drive which
uses ext4, the system freezes.
This would be a different bug, as this bug only occurs when removing
files.
My question is, how do I get the fix?
It looks like the latest karmic kernel release is 2.6.31-17. You might
want to
Since I upgraded to
Linux rgm 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/
no freeze when deleting big files together ( 1GB)
no BUG: soft locking - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! [uic: 5356]
mean 2 PC had the problem, 2PC solved !!!
Previously I had to switch to mainline kernel
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It seems to me that this is fixed in the patches committed from #418197.
Can anyone else confirm? I was able to delete around 2.6 million links
and files in a single rm -rf, which would previously cause a lockup in a
minute or two.
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thanks taigolp! I can confirm as well that mounting my native ext4
with sync,barrier=1 option in my fstab solves the problem on Jaunty.
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actually I'm sorry, I take that back. I was trying to rm -rf over
1.3TB of data, composed of over 17,000 sub directories each a dozen or
so files located inside.
I too had complete system lock-up when I would try deleting them (moving and
copying was fine).
I tried to move the directories
mounting the ext4 filesystem with the mount options sync,barrier=1
seems to solve the problem on my case (2.6.28-15-generic).
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No, Jaunty is still supported (it's still the latest release) and the
bug is still confirmed, therefore closing it would be inappropriate. It
would also don't help developers to track the bug and work on it later.
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comment 256) ?
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Is there a list somewhere of notable patches / features which Canonical
has integrated into their kernel? I'd like to switch to a mainline
kernel to avoid this bug (which is still affecting me), but want to be
sure I'm not missing anything critical which Canonical has changed.
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At this point, it seems pretty clear to me that no one is really working
on this for Jaunty; if you must use Januty, the only thing I can suggest
is to use a mainline kernel --- any mainline kernel, whether it is
2.6.28, 2.6.29, or 2.6.30 will work fine. The problem seems to be in
Canonical's
Im running a fully updated Jaunty and I am still experiencing lockups
when deleting large files/directories. Any idea of when will have a fix
release for jaunty?
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I can reproduce this every single time when deleting large files from
ext3 partitions as well as ext4. I have too noticed that it is easier
to reproduce when the working partition is low on free space. In my
case though when reviewing the log files each soft lockup instance has
lines in common
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* SAUCE: pnp: add PNP resource range checking function
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verification failed, but the patch doesn't appear to have introduced
regressions, so the updated kernel has been published to jaunty-updates.
Resetting for the next pass.
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I have the -14 kernel, and just hit this bug again last night (actually
caused me to lose a fair amount of data).
Are people still looking into this? By most accounts, the fix
committed doesn't fix the problem.
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@getaceres:
Which kernel version are you using exactly?
Mine is 2.6.29-020629-generic, manually installed. But I would prefer to have a
system with standard components. But I don't want to risk loosing my data again.
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I've tried using latest kernel from proposed (2.6.28-15) but I had two
lockups, though they might be not that easy provoking. So, the bug is
not fixed, I am back on 2.6.29-02062906
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Since the last updates, it worked better : I could suppress definitively
files in Nautilus without crashing.
But one time doing this I got a freeze, and 2 times also during copy /
cut - paste of files (around 9 Gb), on a partition with a lot of space
available for the first one.
SInce yesterday,
This sounds similar to a problem that I experienced yesterday.
I did a fresh installation of Ubuntu 9.04 recently and formatted every
partition to ext4. Yesterday, I was moving huge video files from my home
directory to a removable USB hard disk (formatted to ext4 as well) when
the system froze
I've installed the kernel in Jaunty proposed some days ago and since
then I haven't had any hang. My system seems much more stable now.
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Updating the kernel fixed this for me. Thanks JoseStefan for easy
instructions. I think one of the hardest parts of trouble shooting this
is that it only seems to happen on certain hardware configurations,
which means that initially I thought it was a hardware glitch of some
kind due to it not
Full acknowledgement!
For me, I installed Kubuntu Jaunty fresh with native ext4 and external
backup drive, also ext4. Actually it was because of a system crash in
which I lost my complete partition. So I want to have the backup-system
working now before I proceed! But I was stuck because of this
I've also been using the Karmic kernels on Jaunty (and the new nvidia
drivers) as suggested by martinm1000. Unfortunately, it seems to require
also updating the graphics drivers, in my case nvidia.
I've applied this temporary fix a while back, seeing this is taking too
long to fix. I also vote
2009/7/17 JoseStefan joseste...@hotmail.com:
I've also been using the Karmic kernels on Jaunty (and the new nvidia
drivers) as suggested by martinm1000. Unfortunately, it seems to require
also updating the graphics drivers, in my case nvidia.
Because I'm using Nvidia, too, and read about some
Huh. My system's also a single-core Athlon 64, and I'm getting it even
worse (a single rm hangs). Is it possible that this is a race
condition that's *more* likely on a single-core box? Seems like we've
exhausted every other theory :-)
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It happened very frequently on my Dual Core i86 based system (never got
more than 5 single rm commands off without a hang before I went to the
higher kernel) so it certanly can happen on multi-core systems often.
Your theory on race conditions is interesting though--it certainly
exhibits the
Apologies, this is a qualitative post --- but now that people are talking
about different processors, I'll contribute some fluffy info.
That said, I experienced many freezes per day on my Core Solo laptop when
doing dangerous operations (svn update, rsync, rm, etc.). Then I swapped
to a Core 2
Colin Sindle wrote:
After an upgrade to 2.6.30-020630-generic #020630 from the Ubuntu Kernel-ppa
mainline, (to solve unrelated HP laptop sound issues), I have not
experienced any more freezes temporary, or otherwise.
I have as well now manually switched to the 2.6.30-020630 kernel and the
I'm going to reboot, after installing 2.6.30 + newer (185.18.14) NVidia drivers
see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/384639/comments/8
to do it with NVidia working ;-)
Hoping this will solve the crash problem. I would suggest to others to try the
same, since the
This fix seems to be working for me; didn't have a crash since.
That was not easy to install, but I managed...
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Installed linux-image-2.6.28-14-generic 2.6.28-14.46 from jaunty-
proposed. Ran hang.py, and still obtained a soft lockup. Doesn't seem
like the update fixes this problem. So I guess Theodore Tso was right in
pointing out above that this might not be the correct fix. (Note that
for me
I am on .28-14;
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I just read through all the comments (I hope), and did not find this
mentioned, so I thought it might be helpful..
I had the problem for a long time, but didn't bother too much. Now it got
annoying and after some searching I installed mainline 2.6.30 to see if it
would work.
As has been
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Franz Dietzmann wrote:
I just read through all the comments (I hope), and did not find this
mentioned, so I thought it might be helpful..
I had the problem for a long time, but didn't bother too much. Now it got
annoying and after some searching I installed mainline
I highly doubt that it had something to do with permissions, as there
were really all kinds of files (audio, video, documents..) from
different sources (downloads, self-made..).
I didn't mean this to be a cause of the bug, but rather a result and
maybe an indicator to where things might be going
Yep, I crashed using hang.py :
Linux lantea 2.6.28-14-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 8 07:21:34 UTC
2009 i686 GNU/Linux
FilesystemTypeSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 ext4 90G 76G 9.9G 89% /
Didn't crash with 10GB of 100GB.
/dev/sda5 ext4 90G 82G 4.2G
I have all the latest upgraded drivers, kernel, etc. Using a native ext4
partition, Jaunty w/latest KDE. Freezes and locks up the system almost
every single time I empty the trash or delete certain items via Dolphin.
Noticed this problem about 5 days ago, never seemed to be evident before
then. I
I have installed new 2.6.28-14 from jaunty-proposed and switched to it
from 2.6.29. Today I had another lockup during intensive disk usage.
This fix does not work for me.
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Roland Dreier wrote:
Luke Maurer wrote:
I've been able to reproduce it 100% reliably (rm a single file = crashy
crashy) just in the Jaunty
LiveCD environment. AFAIK, the most exotic filesystem hackery it uses is
that union filesystem,
though I was crashing on deleting something on a
Just started using Ubuntu and I had to go looking for why the server
constantly locked on rm commands.
This happens pretty much 100% of the time in my ext4 filesystems that
are large (100gb 60%+ full). I cannot delete more than 20-30 files
before it hangs.
I also was able to go up to 2.6.29 and
Luke Maurer wrote:
I've been able to reproduce it 100% reliably (rm a single file = crashy
crashy) just in the Jaunty
LiveCD environment. AFAIK, the most exotic filesystem hackery it uses is that
union filesystem,
though I was crashing on deleting something on a separate, non-unionized
Accepted linux into jaunty-proposed, the package will build now and be
available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
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I also see this problem with no ecryptfs use (no FUSE-anything, just
EXT4 all around). Does the fix that was committed for 9.04 assume
this is caused by the ecryptfs deadlock?
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On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 23:32 +, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
We might have a break in this bug. For those people who can reliably
reproduce the problem, are you using ecryptfs, possibly extensively?
Not at all here. But I rolled back to using ext4dev with the Intrepid
kernel and now have
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 23:32 +, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
We might have a break in this bug. For those people who can reliably
reproduce the problem, are you using ecryptfs, possibly extensively?
I've been able to reproduce it 100% reliably (rm a single file = crashy
crashy) just in the Jaunty
We might have a break in this bug. For those people who can reliably
reproduce the problem, are you using ecryptfs, possibly extensively?
Roland Drier has reported a potential lockdep report that might explain
why some of us have had extreme problems reproducing the problem; namely
we might not
Ted,
I've NOT been using ecryptfs, but I was using NFS and rsync-over-ssh on ext4
extensively during my lockups.
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On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 01:11:40AM -, Abraham Smith wrote:
Ted,
I've NOT been using ecryptfs, but I was using NFS and rsync-over-ssh on ext4
extensively during my lockups.
NFS client or server? If NFS server, were you exporting an ext4
filesystem?
Both, actually. Yes, exporting ext4.
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Ted,
I've also not been using ecryptfs. I was one of the earliest reporters of
this bug. At that time, (during the beta of Jaunty), the most common use
case that triggered the bug was the running of multiple Virtualbox virtual
machines WHILE simultaneously moving/deleting files across/from
Hi Ted,
even though at this point we've got a huge number of Fedora 11 users
using ext4 w/o any problems.)
Fedora 11 uses linux kernel 2.6.29.4, but Ubuntu 9.04 uses kernel 2.6.28
by default.
I don't have any ext4 soft-lock-up problems using Ubuntu mainline kernel
2.6.29 and 2.6.30 netiher
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
We might have a break in this bug. For those people who can reliably
reproduce the problem, are you using ecryptfs, possibly extensively?
Roland Drier has reported a potential lockdep report that might explain
why some of us have had extreme problems
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Theodore Ts'o wrote:
We might have a break in this bug. For those people who can reliably
reproduce the problem, are you using ecryptfs, possibly extensively?
Roland Drier has reported a potential lockdep report that might explain
why some of
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 02:57:32AM -, Feistybird wrote:
Hi Ted,
even though at this point we've got a huge number of Fedora 11 users
using ext4 w/o any problems.)
Fedora 11 uses linux kernel 2.6.29.4, but Ubuntu 9.04 uses kernel 2.6.28
by default.
I don't have any ext4
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On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 12:35 +, Stefan Bader wrote:
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Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
Which kernel? Can you paste the changelog entry?
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On 20/06/2009 Michael Rooney wrote:
. Ext4 is not the default file system so
it only affects a small minority of users. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance for more information. I am not
sure if this would qualify as a severe impact and it is already fixed
in newer kernels as you
I registered just to say that I have been seriously affected by this
bug, and it certainly deserves more than the medium designation.
Single core, ~1GHz processor, would deadlock consistently on rm -rf'ing
a directory of photos (~4MB each, thousands of them) using the stock
ubuntu kernel 2.6.28-11
Thank you Jason Waddle, i've updated my console-only server to 2.6.30
and succeed deleting 35494 files from an ext4 device in ~45 seconds
without freezing.
Help for the update:
http://www.ramoonus.nl/2009/06/10/linux-kernel-2-6-30-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-and-debian-linux/
Ubuntu folks, when am I going to be able to tell my mom it's a good
idea to ditch the Windows and go Ubuntu?
To be blunt, when you decide to use the stable defaults Ubuntu provides.
Sorry about being off topic but this was just so ridiculous I had to
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On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Jason Waddlejwad...@gmail.com wrote:
I registered just to say that I have been seriously affected by this
bug, and it certainly deserves more than the medium designation.
While I can definitely understand your frustration, please keep in
mind the context of your
2009/6/20 Brian Shannon teapot.philosop...@googlemail.com
Ubuntu folks, when am I going to be able to tell my mom it's a good
idea to ditch the Windows and go Ubuntu?
To be blunt, when you decide to use the stable defaults Ubuntu provides.
Sorry about being off topic but this was just so
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Jason Waddlejwad...@gmail.com wrote:
Releasing with ext4 (without any sort of cautionary warnings in the
installer!) in this shape was a serious mistake.
It is also documented in the release notes:
Sorry for multiple pollution of the bug report but I got things wrong.
And in fact a warning to the installer would be a nice addition, however
the release notes are clear on the ext4 bugs.
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If everybody is using stable defaults then who will test or develop new
software?
Every software community must have early testers and if they report
something it would be in the best interests of community to fix
I want to apologize for my last comment. I really like having a free
operating system and all the free software, and I love the people who
volunteer their time putting it all together and making it work as well
as it does (thank you!). I was in a bit of a mood after messing with
this thing all
This bug doesn't seem to trigger on ext3 file systems mounted as ext4.
Can anyone confirm?
Maybe we can pinpoint which of the new ext4 attributes are needed to
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JoseStefan joseste...@hotmail.com wrote:
This bug doesn't seem to trigger on ext3 file systems mounted as ext4.
Can anyone confirm?
Maybe we can pinpoint which of the new ext4 attributes are needed to
trigger the bug?
I can confirm that I only saw the bug
I have resisted posting because 'me too' is not helpful. However, I am
operating two very different machines (no two pieces of hardware the
same) with the same operating system (Jaunty [ext4] with all the latest
updates). Both machines exhibit the same 'freezing' problem on deleting
files and the
fr., 19.06.2009 kl. 07.26 +, skrev Nicholas Roberts:
I have resisted posting because 'me too' is not helpful. However, I am
operating two very different machines (no two pieces of hardware the
same) with the same operating system (Jaunty [ext4] with all the latest
updates). Both machines
I dont want to be rude but the its your own fault, dont use it attitude does
not help anyone.
I am pretty sure everyone knows they can use ext3, thats not the point of a
bugreport tho.
If Ubuntu ships with ext4 supoort it should work period.
In this current state its almost unusable.
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Regarding Øyvind's wise words...
I completely agree Øyvind and you are right sir. That said, there are an
awful lot of people (like me) who have opted for ext4 believing that any
major bugs would be sorted in the usual timely fashion that we have come
to enjoy from the Ubuntu community. I think
fr., 19.06.2009 kl. 08.53 +, skrev _dan_:
I dont want to be rude but the its your own fault, dont use it attitude
does not help anyone.
I am pretty sure everyone knows they can use ext3, thats not the point of a
bugreport tho.
If Ubuntu ships with ext4 supoort it should work period.
In
fr., 19.06.2009 kl. 08.57 +, Nicholas Roberts:
Regarding Øyvind's wise words...
I agree with what you're saying ! This bug sucks. Also see my reply to
dan. And the warning about EXT4 should be more prominent in the release
notes. Thankfully, they did not set it as default fs. Sorry for the
I realize that I'm just adding to the problem, but... Please conduct
these discussions somewhere else. There are a lot of people subscribed
to this thread, not because they want to discuss it, but probably
because they are waiting for a fix to be released.
So at a risk of being rude; please
Well said Andri. Now back to the bug.
I have been running 2 entirely different servers with the desktop
version of 9.10 for 3 weeks now with EXT3 and other with EXT4.
In 8.10 and 9.04 Ubuntu froze as described above when I deleted large
numbers of files. Or indeed when any software deleted
I can not recommend strongly enough that you DO NOT follow jagnet's
advice and upgrade to Karmic to get away from this bug. Yes the bug
is fixed in Karmic, but in development releases many many worse bugs
can be found (especially this early).
Unfortunately, the only truly supported solution has
Hi
There is a better solution as suggested before in the discussion. Download
2.6.30 from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/.
I never had a problem after installing mainline. I wont recommend it if you
are using some proprietary drivers from Ubuntu. They may not be
Another possibility is to use the Karmic kernel but keep a Jaunty
userspace. I haven't tried this myself, but I suspect it is highly
likely to work.
As far as people complaining --- please note that (a) Ubuntu has not
made this the default, and (b) when I talked to the Canonical kernel
team,
P.S. There is a known ext4 file system corruption bug which is fixed in
the 2.6.30 mainline kernel and in 2.6.29.5. It was found after the
stable kernel series stopped updating for 2.6.28, but I do carry a fix
for it in my for-stable-2.6.28 branch of the ext4 git tree, located
here:
FWIW, I've installed a kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-
ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/ and I haven't had any problems since then.
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Hi Ted,
I've opened bug 389555,
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/389555,
to track the issue you mentioned in comment
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/330824/comments/191
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
P.S. There is a known ext4 file system corruption bug which is fixed in
the 2.6.30 mainline kernel and in 2.6.29.5. It was found after the
stable kernel series stopped updating for 2.6.28, but I do carry a fix
for it in my for-stable-2.6.28 branch
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 04:49:19PM -, Derek wrote:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tytso/ext4.git
for-stable-2.6.28
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tytso/ext4.git;a=shortlog;h=for-stable-2.6.28
(This is where it's handy to have a file system
@vaibhav mishra; you should open a new report about the issue with your
wireless broadcom.
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I installed the karmic kernel (using kernelcheck) ,and rebooted, no
system freezes though but as a side-effect my wireless stopped working,
I am on Jaunty with broadcomm b43 wireless, the lid didn't go on, as if
thre is no wireless , SystemAdministrationHardware drivers show that
driver is
update: now hardware drivers say , broadcom wireless is activated but
still it is not working.
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@Ulrich...I know this has been mentioned before, but you could try out
one of the karmic kernels and see if you still have problems...if you
are, then you can be fairly sure your problems aren't related
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Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28
@Ulrich: Are you sure none of those operations involved deleting files?
The usual symptom is that the system hangs *after* the rm is successful,
so that's not out of character. SVN does some amount of file-based
locking, IIUC, which means at some point it has to rm the lock file.
Creating a
I am using jaunty 64 bit. I formated using ext4 on 320 gig hard drive.
It hangs when moving files from NTFS usb drive that I used for backup.
It also tells me the trash can is full. I changed the trash can to 50%
or 107 gigs. It should not have been full. I also states the files are
to large
@Luke: yes the files that were moved that caused the computer to freeze
were on the same volume.
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Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824
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