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- [Needs packaging] TeXLive 2011
+ [needs-packaging] Latest TeXLive
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- Oneiric's repositories still
Please close this bug, TeX Live 2012 is already packaged and in Ubuntu.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
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- [Needs packaging] TeXLive 2011
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We have TeXLive 2012 in 12.10 now. I would like to thank everybody
involved for making this possible, many will benefit from this.
If it is possible to make a small donation, please let me know. I can
not give much, but I'd like to show my appreciation.
Thanks again,
Ingo
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Rüdiger, yes, texlive 2012 pre-release is already in Ubuntu 12.10 and
Debian unstable.
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@#62
By October TeX Live 2011 is outdated and TeX Live 2012 (release planned
for June) is the new stable version. See http://www.tug.org/texlive/
Debian sid already has TeX Live 2012. Is there any chance that ubuntu
12.10 will ship with TeX Live 2012?
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I am unable to install the PPA. Error trace pasted here:
http://paste.ubuntu.com/981931/
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TexLive 2011 has been uploaded to the Ubuntu Quantal Quetzal
repositories and will be available when Ubuntu 12.10 is released in
October.
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I tested the ppa and it seems, that it is working fine. With other
words: i didn't had problems either installing nor using it so far.
Thanks for setting it up!
What are the things which are left to do?
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Ok, try this PPA for 12.04: https://launchpad.net/~texlive-
backports/+archive/ppa (and please don't use my personal dev PPA, it's
experimental!)
I don't want to be the only guy maintaining this, so consider joining
the team if you'd like to help with backporting packages from Debian (or
Ubuntu
Hi everyone,
here a few remarks from the Debian maintainer.
On Mi, 04 Apr 2012, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
As bug free as texlive may be, I don't think the Ubuntu Release Team
wants to do this transition 6 weeks after Feature Freeze when we're
supposed to be in heavy-duty LTS bug-fixing mode. Also,
Norbert, thanks for all your work (and thanks to the other folks in
Debian's TeX team). Personally, I don't really use TeX yet (except for
making minor updates to a shared presentation with a grad student I work
with), and am quite busy with Ubuntu's docs and desktop teams. I
strongly agree with
Hi Jeremy,
On Mi, 04 Apr 2012, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
will become TeX contributors and help you out with testing and
So I hope, but I don't believe in it. Too many have announced too much
without ever ever contributing anything.
The PPA does help somewhat in that it makes it easier for future
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oh, no! no TeXLive2011 in 12.04 after all?
@jbicha, what does it change that the packages are huge or that the package it
is in main? The main changes in TeX2011 are in the additions of new and
awesome tex-packages, not in the core programs and core packages. I doubt that
any documentation
Alf, I have 9 source packages in my experimental PPA which take up about
3GB of space. I believe there are a few more less used source packages I
haven't bothered adding yet.
As bug free as texlive may be, I don't think the Ubuntu Release Team
wants to do this transition 6 weeks after Feature
@jbicha, cool, good that you are setting up the PPA,
BTW, is the partitioning of TeXLive portions based on the Debian
packaging? or are you packaging directly from the manual installation of
TeXLive? As soon as I upgrade my good old 10.04 I will add your PPA and
give you feedback.
I wonder also
After looking into this a bit more, I realized that texlive isn't just
one source package in Ubuntu and the packages are huge, 3 GB or more.
texlive is also in main because core packages use it for building
documentation. I think this is going to be way too much to try to get
into Ubuntu 12.04 now
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Terrific news! This means it will be fixed for 12.10?
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pinch me, did texlive 2011 made it to 12.10?
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It seems that good things do come to those who wait. Thanks to all the
developers!
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Since the Ubuntu package does not have any changes from the Debian one,
texlive 2011 will make it into Ubuntu 12.10 without a problem.
Because texlive is an important package (quite a few other packages need
it to build documentation against) and this is an LTS cycle with a focus
on not breaking
Thanks for the update. It would be just fantastic if it got in for 12.04.
(And I'm guessing that future support and maintenance would be easier?)
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Does anybody know how to link the TeXlive 2011 files form the official
TeXlive website, so that programs like gummi oder TeXmaker are using
TeXlive 2011 instead of being depend on the OLD TeXlive in the Ubuntu
repository? I can't find the answer anywhere.
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Sorry, I didn't realized that a gummi-notex package is provide. This
solves my issue at least for gummi.
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The current Ubuntu documentation/help page includes a disclaimer about
the staleness of this package, so anyone looking there for help will be
directed to install the latest from http://www.tug.org/texlive/
The documentation page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX says:
Note: As of
The current problem is that normal users want the newest texlive
(texlive 2009 is too old/buggy for now), and ubuntu maintainers does not
want to upgrade it for various reasons which sound like bullshit (see
above). Then people starts to discuss how to upgrade by themselves, and
then some people
Could TeXlive be split in a core debian package which embeds (physically
contains binary code) of the core of TeXlive plus ancillary packages (like it
does now, say texlive-publishers) which are meta-packages that call tlmgr in
the post-install script, just like the flash-player package just
Hi everyone,
why not installing by using a script (like this
http://alexkrispin.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/update-a-script-to-automate-the-installation-of-texlive-2011-on-ubuntu/
) ?. It isn't so difficult to use and you get TeXlive 2011 right on.
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It would be a real shame for Ubuntu 12.04 to be stuck with Texlive 2009
for another 5 years! It would be 8 years old by its end of life!
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I am afraid that TeXLive will always lag in ubuntu.
Repackaging it in debs appears to be simply a too huge effort.
Since texlive already has its own package manager, I suggest creating a
minimalistic
texlive-installer deb package that automatizes to some extent the install of a
vanilla TeXlive
I think having a special package that automatizes the installation of
latest texlive would be nice, but it should not replace the normal
texlive packages.
Besides, even though some new fixes and package versions would be nice,
all of my documents, and I'm guessing most out there, still work with
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Just for the record, Norbert is talking about this debian-tex-maint thread:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-tex-maint/2011/11/msg6.html
So there is new hope :)
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Isn't there any ppa or other way to get texlive 2011 running on ubuntu?
I use it on Windows, and now I get errors on pdflatex in ubuntu, that
shouldn't be.
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No, that's what this bug is about. You must install it manually.
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On Sa, 29 Okt 2011, Catalin Hritcu wrote:
I willing to pledge 30$ to see this fixed ASAP.
The problem is that I don't take money for my work on Debian.
I am volunteer. And I want to be volunteer.
Recently someone stepped forth on the mailing list (debian-tex-maint)
with a serious support offer,
As a student, I can afford $10.
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i'd put in some money as well. do you think this could be done through
the Tex development fund https://www.tug.org/tc/devfund/ they already
have the infrastructure to collect donations and pay developers.
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I think that from the options Norbert presented I prefer #2: pay
someone to do it for you.
I willing to pledge 30$ to see this fixed ASAP.
Does anyone else want to put their money where their mouth is? We could
start a Pledgie campaign for this!?
Just to see if this is realistic or not, maybe
I am also willing to pledge another $30 to help.
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I needed a tikz keyword that was missing. But I coded around that, and
the paper is now finished. So my need is not imminent anymore.
50-100 hrs is a lot. The few messages I found in debian-tex-maint in
August on TL2011 seemed to indicate that some work still remains to make
the packages hold
On Mo, 17 Okt 2011, Jan-Åke Larsson wrote:
50-100 hrs is a lot. The few messages I found in debian-tex-maint in
August on TL2011 seemed to indicate that some work still remains to make
the packages hold together. Missing texmf.cnf, yikes! But as you say,
Yes,some work is a slight
I resent being called a dummie. I maintain one of the binary tools in
texlive.
I am trying to get the latest packages. So are a number of other users.
I note that many of the bugs reported on the Ubuntu package are directly
related to getting newer versions of packages.
I realize the packagers
I see that you mention a new release layout. How many hours work would
you need to spend to finish this?
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Hi Jan-Åke,
On So, 16 Okt 2011, Jan-Åke Larsson wrote:
I resent being called a dummie. I maintain one of the binary tools in
texlive.
I very much appreciate that you maintain programs related to TeX,
but I stand by my point, first that 90% or more of the people
complaining on Launchpad are
Norbert:
but I stand by my point, first that 90% or more of the people
complaining on Launchpad are dummies searching simply for the
newest versions without an actual need.
That's pretty harsh. Does the desire to remain current with collaborators
using newer TL versions on other platforms make
On So, 16 Okt 2011, oddhack wrote:
That's pretty harsh. Does the desire to remain current with collaborators
using newer TL versions on other platforms make me a dummy? Not sure
about the motivations of the other 124 people on the bug.
It is about ranting instead of contributing.
Do you
I would like to emphasize upon the importance of this task, I have faced
many bugs in TL2009 that have been fixed in TL2011, and I also need
tlmgr.
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@preining
Could you post the links to the preliminary 2011 packages here too? I would
like to try.
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and I also need
tlmgr.
And I have already said many many times that there will be no tlmgr in
the Debian/Ubuntu packages, because there is no need and no place.
If you want daily updates a la tlmgr install upstream TeX Live.
End of line.
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@preining
Could you post the links to the preliminary 2011 packages here too? I would
like to try.
There was nothing to try becausr they were not installable.
What we need is people with packaging ability and ability to check
packages, not dummies trying to get the latest packages.
Anyway I
I also want to confirm that it is really bad to install the newest ubuntu to
end up with an very outdated version of latex.
Although I have no idea of maintaining packages I also want to vote for a
simple way of installing an up-to-date version of latex.
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I kind of fully agree with lal lop. The texlive issue is almost the
biggest reason that I never liked ubuntu, though I have to use it at the
moment. See the packages in Arch Linux: they manage it quite well. I
have to install texlive manually, and to install a fake deb solving the
dependency
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@ preining
Perhaps I'm dumb, but:
Guess how many complains we (now I am Debian maintainer) get about the
size? If I could package all of TL in one package that would be much
easier ...
This wasn't what I meant. I meant to package just one bit of TL, the
installer, into it, and make it pretend
@ preining
Of course, because they all install texlive full scheme, so everything.
Also, I'm not sure if this is related, but full scheme is far from
necessary for manual install. In fact, from recent googling, there is
even a new script popped up for installing packages on the fly while
Hi
This wasn't what I meant. I meant to package just one bit of TL, the
installer, into it, and make it pretend to provide all the TL
dependencies.
And, as I wrote in the last email, how would the build structure that
automatically install buil dependencies make sure that all the necessary
@preining
how would the build structure that automatically install buil
dependencies make sure that all the necessary addons for that paticular
document would be installed?
In my thought, the real package would be all-texlive (like what you
said would be easier for you), replacing the currently
I should point out that, with the package manager tlmgr (new since the
2010 version), there's no real need to group individual TeX Live
packages into debian ones, as was done with Live 2009. Instead, the
user can maintain a Live package system orthogonal to Ubuntu's.
Having two package managers
Hi everyone,
I should point out that, with the package manager tlmgr (new since the
2010 version), there's no real need to group individual TeX Live
packages into debian ones, as was done with Live 2009. Instead, the
user can maintain a Live package system orthogonal to Ubuntu's.
Wrong. It
It could be worse...
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5402
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One should not that Ubuntu usually follows Debian (I don't know of any
Ubuntu-specific work on TL@Linux), and Debian also still has TL2009.
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How about removing the ancient texlive 2009 from Ubuntu, and advising people to
install Tex Live 2011 directly from here: http://www.tug.org/texlive/
The completely obsolete version you ship with Ubuntu is much worse than
nothing! It forces novices into using buggy versions of TeX packages,
TeX Live 2011 is released.
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** Summary changed:
- [Needs packaging] TeXLive 2010
+ [Needs packaging] TeXLive 2011
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- In Natty's repositories there still is only TeXLive 2009. This package
- has been superseded by TeXLive 2010 since a long time and hope to see
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