Re: What do I do with disturbing bug reports in Wine about system crashes?

2007-11-15 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Scott Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These are clearly not Wine bugs, but it's unclear to me where I should refile them. Wine's exposing a bug somewhere else (probably the driver or X), but what should I do? We haven't done that so far, but would that workflow work for you here? - open

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 14.11.2007, 11:38 -0500 schrieb Fabian Rodriguez: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 (not sure if this made it so re-sending) it did :) Hi, I'd like to propose moving apt-cacher to main. I haven't done main inclusion reports before so bear with me

Re: Our best foot forward

2007-11-15 Thread Patrick
Hi Martin and list Thanks for your words of encouragement, I needed that. Martin I would love to work with you on what I guess would be an all-in-one helper application. I can program in Python too although my GTK is still weak. I can only contribute about 2-3 hours a week as I am already

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Scott Abbey wrote: [...] I think the point of moving it is so that it receives official support from Canonical. That way those on paid support contracts can still expect assistance from Canonical when using the package. Canonical only

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Sam Tygier
Kevin Fries wrote: I am not sure it needs to be moved. But, what would be totally cool is if the installer scanned the local network on install and configured apt-cacher in sources.list instead of the normal repos by default when if finds a server. That would be a terrific usability upgrade.

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Sam Tygier wrote: could apt-zeroconf[0] be installed and enabled by default. distributed apt-cacher for local networks implemented in Python. It's called apt-zeroconf since we use avahi for automatically finding other apt-zeroconf instances

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Kevin Fries
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 18:27 -0500, Scott Abbey wrote: I think the point of moving it is so that it receives official support from Canonical. That way those on paid support contracts can still expect assistance from Canonical when using the package. Canonical only provides paid support for

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Sam Tygier wrote: it looks like they have got the security side covered. Now, one might think this could potentially pose a security threat as everyone can offer and distribute debs without any authentication whatsoever. This is not the

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Sam Tygier
Fabian Rodriguez wrote: apt-zeroconf is actually a replacement for apt-cacher, not a complement to it, according to its site. I think we already know the answer to enabled by default autodiscovery / other networking services. I would have some trust issues using apt-zeroconf, but that's just

Re: Our best foot forward

2007-11-15 Thread Onno Benschop
On 15/11/07 22:55, Patrick wrote: Has Canonical carried out studies with new users of different technical abilities? This might be a good thing to do. After a Newbie installs Ubuntu where do they go first? How is their experience in the first hour. To woe Windows users I think the first

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:05:01PM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: in edubuntu we face the fact that governments and schools start rolling out really huge deployments in the near future (see macedonia with a total of 185000 systems for example), if you maintain 5000 seats in one school or 1

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Kevin Fries wrote: I am not sure it needs to be moved. But, what would be totally cool is if the installer scanned the local network on install and configured apt-cacher in sources.list instead of the normal repos by default when if finds a

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 12:53:14PM -0500, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: If this was actually checked against a local web of trust (like OpenPGP or Gaim-OTR keys or else) it may become interesting. But who uses that safely ? :) All packages downloaded by APT are authenticated using PGP keys provided