Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...

2009-04-05 Thread Jan Claeys
I reported a crash in Synaptic yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/355415 Now, the Apport retrace service invalidated this bug because I don't have scrollkeeper installed. But scrollkeeper is deprecated and replaced by rarian-compat (which is a dependency of

Re: Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...

2009-04-05 Thread Luka Renko
On Sunday 05 April 2009 08:21:53 Jan Claeys wrote: I reported a crash in Synaptic yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/355415 Now, the Apport retrace service invalidated this bug because I don't have scrollkeeper installed. But scrollkeeper is deprecated and

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote: 2009/4/4 Nils Kassube kass...@gmx.net: If you don't trust update-manager you would have to check everything after an update. I don't think anybody will do that even after providing the password. Most users don't even know

Re: Looking for a List of log messages that Linux sends

2009-04-05 Thread Derek Broughton
raahi 108 wrote: I am doing some syslog analysis from various devices. For Linux, i was trying to find if there is a document listing formats for ALL logs that linux sends out... -e.g. --- 92pure-ftpd: (?...@theman) [WARNING] Authentication failed for user [root]

Re: Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...

2009-04-05 Thread Jan Claeys
Op zondag 05-04-2009 om 09:40 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Luka Renko: On Sunday 05 April 2009 08:21:53 Jan Claeys wrote: I reported a crash in Synaptic yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/355415 Now, the Apport retrace service invalidated this bug because

Re: Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...

2009-04-05 Thread Martin Pitt
Luka Renko [2009-04-05 9:40 +0200]: This sounds very similar to the this bug I reported recently: https://launchpad.net/bugs/341358 Indeed it is the same reason. I'll work on this ASAP. At least the impact is not that big, since it only rejects those crashes if the retrace is really unusable

RFC: tutorial on new design features

2009-04-05 Thread Felipe Figueiredo
Hello, I've been following discussion on new design features and bugs, and just downloaded Jaunty beta to check things out. It's a great difference from Hardy, which is what I still use. I didn't see the face of Intrepid, so I don't know how much of the difference is actually from Jaunty, but

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Matt Wheeler
2009/4/5 John McCabe-Dansted gma...@gmail.com: Adding something like   %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: aptitude update to the sudoers gives almost the right rights. If there is no user input into aptitude, then this does not add any new such security holes. /usr/bin/aptitude would be safer, but yes.

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sunday 05 April 2009 7:15:20 am John McCabe-Dansted wrote: Still, an overnight auto-update seems like a sensible default for novice users who don't need or want to know what an update is. This is what I set my computer too when I am overseas and leave my computer on for family to use.

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Remco
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: There's already an option in System - Administration - Software sources to have updates installed automatically.  There's also cron (the reason my mom's computer gets updates at all). Are there any problems with enabling

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Evan Murphy
2009/4/5 Remco remc...@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: There's already an option in System - Administration - Software sources to have updates installed automatically. There's also cron (the reason my mom's computer gets updates at

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Evan Murphy
2009/4/5 Remco remc...@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: There's already an option in System - Administration - Software sources to have updates installed automatically. There's also cron (the reason my mom's computer gets updates at

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sunday 05 April 2009 4:45:38 pm Remco wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: There's already an option in System - Administration - Software sources to have updates installed automatically. There's also cron (the reason my mom's computer gets

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 29, Issue 10

2009-04-05 Thread solaris manzur
i want to see tooltips when hovering files with the mouse, in nautilus, pleasee!! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 29, Issue 10

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:52 PM, solaris manzur sl.sola...@gmail.com wrote: i want to see tooltips when hovering files with the mouse, in nautilus, pleasee!! This is known upstream. You can follow the progress here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147642 But

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Jan Claeys
Op zondag 05-04-2009 om 17:10 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Mackenzie Morgan: The only trouble is that some updates stop services. Hal may need to be restarted, and if Firefox isn't restarted after an update it breaks royally. Actually, a running firefox shows you a warning and a restart

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Jan Claeys
Op zondag 05-04-2009 om 22:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Remco: Are there any problems with enabling automatic updates by default? I'd suggest, if we implement this, that automatic (security) updates are *ALWAYS* delayed until something like 24h-36h after the release. That gives us the time

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any problems with enabling automatic updates by default? Most users don't care about updates to the point that they never install them. And even if they would open the update manager, they would more likely

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sunday 05 April 2009 11:55:10 pm Jan Claeys wrote: Op zondag 05-04-2009 om 17:10 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Mackenzie Morgan: The only trouble is that some updates stop services. Hal may need to be restarted, and if Firefox isn't restarted after an update it breaks royally.

Re: Looking at Package Management for Karmic or Karmic+1

2009-04-05 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 06-04-2009 om 00:43 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Mackenzie Morgan: On Sunday 05 April 2009 11:55:10 pm Jan Claeys wrote: Actually, a running firefox shows you a warning and a restart button (or at least it did?) if it's older than the on-disk version. I guess that's part of the