Re: FW: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Didier Roche
Le 23/06/2013 20:21, Matt B. a écrit : Just a quick note about the Scopes project: I wanted to say THANKS to ubuntu engineers for giving users the ability to Uninstall the packages involved. Privacy wise I think this is a very considerate offering. Regardless of one's view on the whole

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 J Fernyhough wrote on 22/06/13 16:06: On 22 June 2013 15:12, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: On Ubuntu, an app will request a privilege during runtime. For example, a game might have a find my friends who already play this game

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 13-06-24 08:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: J Fernyhough wrote on 22/06/13 16:06: On 22 June 2013 15:12, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: On Ubuntu, an app will request a privilege during runtime. For example, a game might have a find my friends who already play this

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Hollocher wrote on 22/06/13 16:31: ... This is poor design. Of all the time you spend with an app, the moment you're about to install it is the moment when you know the least about it. So it's the moment when you're least able to make

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin Kerensa wrote on 23/06/13 08:41: On Jun 22, 2013 7:16 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com ... Ubuntu is an operating system, not a person. Neither you nor I get to decide priorities for Canonical engineers. But anyone is

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 13-06-23 03:41 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Canonical Engineers have pretty much ignored the proposal of even one member of the Ubuntu Tech Board in regards to user privacy. What makes you believe if Canonical ignores a former security team member/current tech board member and the EFF

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com wrote: On 13-06-23 03:41 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Canonical Engineers have pretty much ignored the proposal of even one member of the Ubuntu Tech Board in regards to user privacy. What makes you believe if Canonical ignores a former security

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 13-06-23 04:06 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: The person in question has perhaps the most foremost expertise on Information Security and Privacy in our community and perhaps in other communities as well. He is widely respected and I don't think its just his opinion. I think its widely held

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 13-06-24 01:12 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com wrote: On 13-06-23 03:41 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Canonical Engineers have pretty much ignored the proposal of even one member of the Ubuntu Tech Board in regards to user privacy. What makes

Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Alexander Hanff
Hi list, Introduction --- In light of the recent scandal regarding the NSA's surveillance programme PRISM and the fact that all US Corporations or Non-US Corporations with facilities within the US are vulnerable to Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) orders under the

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Alexandre Strube
What is the difference between this company and duck duck go, or what would be the benefit of this over, say, have such measures implemented client-side? []s Alexandre Strube Sent from my touchpad Em 24/06/2013 19:56, Alexander Hanff a.ha...@think-privacy.com escreveu: Hi list, ** **

RE: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Alexander Hanff
DuckDuckGo are a US owned and based company, that means they can be compelled under US law to monitor their users. Even though DuckDuckGo state they do not log any information and they also use HTTPS by default, it does not protect them from being compelled to monitor their users under FISAAA,

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Alexander Hanff a.ha...@think-privacy.com wrote: After launching NoDPI.org and successfully chasing Phorm out of the UK and EU, I took up a position at Privacy International, where I headed up their Digital Privacy portfolio for 3 years. I'll just leave this

RE: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Alexander Hanff
I'll just leave this here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/new-leaks-british-intels-direct-from-fiber-taps-worse-than-the-us/ GCHQ are UK Intelligence service and have zero jurisdiction in the

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com wrote: On 13-06-23 04:06 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: The person in question has perhaps the most foremost expertise on Information Security and Privacy in our community and perhaps in other communities as

RE: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Alexandre Strube
Ok. Understanding this, what is the proposal? To change the default search page of Ubuntu on all browsers? []s Alexandre Strube Sent from my touchpad Em 24/06/2013 21:31, Alexander Hanff a.ha...@think-privacy.com escreveu: I'll just leave this here:

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Ubuntu does not have a default search engine although the browsers it ships do. If your interested in getting the default search engine changed in one of the browsers available in Ubuntu that kind of a push would have to occur upstream. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Alexander Hanff

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread J Fernyhough
On 24 June 2013 21:17, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ubuntu does not have a default search engine although the browsers it ships do. If your interested in getting the default search engine changed in one of the browsers available in Ubuntu that kind of a push would have to occur

RE: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Alexander Hanff
Why would it have to occur upstream? There is nothing that I can see which would prevent Ubuntu from doing a custom build of Firefox to include a different default - isn't Ubuntu Firefox already branched from the official Mozilla tree due to licensing iirc (been a while but I think this certainly

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Alexander Hanff a.ha...@think-privacy.comwrote: Why would it have to occur upstream? It wouldn't necessarily but making such a change would create a delta that Ubuntu would carry. I really cannot see Ubuntu changing a default search engine provider when it has

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 13-06-24 03:58 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com mailto:marc.deslauri...@canonical.com wrote: On 13-06-23 04:06 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: The person in question has perhaps the most foremost expertise

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Martin Pitt
Benjamin Kerensa [2013-06-24 13:17 -0700]: Ubuntu does not have a default search engine although the browsers it ships do. If your interested in getting the default search engine changed in one of the browsers available in Ubuntu that kind of a push would have to occur upstream. For the

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Correct and I explained this to the OP when they mailed me off list. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Benjamin Kerensa [2013-06-24 13:17 -0700]: Ubuntu does not have a default search engine although the browsers it ships do. If your interested in