Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-04 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 03.07.2008, 20:39 -0400 schrieb Mackenzie Morgan: On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 20:58 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: Also the same problem is for ndiswrapper - it's not on the cd even though it's open source. I'm pretty sure ndiswrapper has been able to be installed

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-04 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 03.07.2008, 16:47 -0400 schrieb Bud Roth: You've identified an issue regarding copies of Ubuntu CDs that, while a valid concern, can be addressed. (I'm a lawyer, not a developer, so that's where my strengths and weaknesses fall.) Broadcom wouldn't agree to let

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-04 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi Sam, Sam Tygier [2008-07-03 20:09 +0100]: Does Jockey ask the user to put in a driver cd? or check it the firmware is on a windows/mac partition? or ask the user if they have the file? Neither at the moment, I'm afraid :/ Martin -- Martin Pitt|

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-04 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
Sam Tygier pisze: Does Jockey ask the user to put in a driver cd? or check it the firmware is on a windows/mac partition? or ask the user if they have the file? those would be cool I've filed a bug about it. Also I've filed a bug about ndiswrapper support in jockey. -- ## Przemysław

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-04 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 09:01 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: Mackenzie Morgan pisze: On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 20:58 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: Also the same problem is for ndiswrapper - it's not on the cd even though it's open source. I'm pretty sure ndiswrapper has been able

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Przemysław Kulczycki [2008-07-03 20:14 +0200]: If not, then maybe Canonical could ask Broadcom for permission to redistribute these files? That already happened many times, but fell on deaf ears unfortunately. And even

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-03 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
Mackenzie Morgan pisze: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Przemysław Kulczycki [2008-07-03 20:14 +0200]: If not, then maybe Canonical could ask Broadcom for permission to redistribute these files? That already happened many times, but fell on deaf ears

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-03 Thread Niels Egberts
But the ati and nvidia drivers are not on the cd right? They are downloadable, just as the drivers that are being discussed here. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Przemysław Kulczycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mackenzie Morgan pisze: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Martin Pitt [EMAIL

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Mackenzie Morgan [2008-07-03 14:31 -0400]: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Przemysław Kulczycki [2008-07-03 20:14 +0200]: If not, then maybe Canonical could ask Broadcom for permission to redistribute these files? That already happened many times,

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-03 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi! Just wanted to add my opinion about mystical reasons why companies don't want allow us to use their hardware properly - I think all stuff about back engineering is total bs. Competitors who actually can do back engineering, already have huge labs, where all competitors products are tested

Re: absurd: network connection required to obtain a network driver

2008-07-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 20:58 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: Also the same problem is for ndiswrapper - it's not on the cd even though it's open source. I'm pretty sure ndiswrapper has been able to be installed using the CD as a repo since Feisty at least. It's not part of the default