Re: Easy Add/Remove Porgrams for non-sudoers with local PREFIX?

2007-12-21 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
You'd have to have special packages for local and for system-wide. ./configure is during compile, not during installation, so you'd have to compile twice for each package to have one that goes in ~ On Dec 20, 2007 11:24 AM, Carsten Agger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like in many packages, you can

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi, Jonathan Musther [2007-12-21 9:16 +1300]: I'm new to this list, I joined it because I saw in the archive that recently you were discussing the problem with running fsck on boot as a 'just in case' filesystem check. We quickly discussed this at the last UDS. Most people were not in

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Jonathan Musther
It would be interesting to hear how people feel about having an interruptible check on boot, versus moving the check to shutdown? Certainly an interruptible check is an improvement, but is it still lacking in usability? Also, would the user have to skip the check within a timeout (something like

Re: Will PulseAudio be in Hardy? (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2007-12-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:36:18AM +0800, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: I think PulseAudio can save every user great amount of trouble regarding sound issues, and bad bad esd. I hope PulseAudio get included in Hardy as default. It already is. -- Colin Watson

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On ven, 2007-12-21 at 08:13 -0500, Evan wrote: My personal preference would be to move it to shut-down, but an interruptable check on boot is better than nothing. Just my two cents. I'm not sure that moving it to shutdown is a proper solution. Think about a laptop shuting down because its

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Evan
My personal preference would be to move it to shut-down, but an interruptable check on boot is better than nothing. Just my two cents. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Jonathan Musther
If it was moved to shutdown, I would assume that the user would be able to skip it, or better yet they would be prompted. I have been contacted by autofsck users who have turned off a laptop and then closed the lid immediately (or turned off a desktop and immediately switched off the monitor) and

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 14:09 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: Can we not just check and never run (auto)fsck when on battery? But there are definitely people who rarely or never use the laptop while plugged in. E.g., they may charge overnight, unplug and take the laptop on the road, replugging in the

RE: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Chris Martin
I have been following this and I thought I would add my 2 cents worth (1) At shutdown is good (2) Timeout/interuptable – is good (3) BUT. The default action should be “No Action” At shutdown the user is prompted that a file system check is required When the timeout occurs

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Jonathan Musther
I agree entirely, the user shouldn't have to say, no, don't do it they should have to say yes, now is a good time. On Dec 22, 2007 10:46 AM, Chris Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been following this and I thought I would add my 2 cents worth (1) At shutdown is good (2)

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
My personal preference would be to move it to shut-down, but an interruptable check on boot is better than nothing. Just my two cents. Of course then there's the laptop angle. My old POS laptop has about 3 minutes of battery life left. One day I either need a new laptop or to pony up a

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-21 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
Of course then there's the laptop angle. My old POS laptop has about 3 minutes of battery life left. One day I either need a new laptop or to pony up a thousand for a shiny new model. Anyways--I usually hit shutdown, unplug everything and throw it in my bag. It would definitely run out of

Re: Easy Add/Remove Porgrams for non-sudoers with local PREFIX?

2007-12-21 Thread Jason Crain
Mackenzie Morgan wrote: You'd have to have special packages for local and for system-wide. ./configure is during compile, not during installation, so you'd have to compile twice for each package to have one that goes in ~ On Dec 20, 2007 11:24 AM, Carsten Agger [EMAIL PROTECTED]