Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 04:10:31PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Julian Andres Klode: > > If A suggests B, and you install B in some way, you may have come to > > rely on the fact that A is extended by B on your system. > > Automatically removing B could thus cause an unexpected loss of >

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 04:37:40PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Julian Andres Klode: > > Usually it is a Suggests from another existing package. > > If I run "apt-cache depends gnome-shell", it says: > Recommends: gdm > Breaks: gdm > > Is this normal, having a package both as

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On 21 December 2015 at 14:59, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Julian Andres Klode: >> >> autoremove will remove all packages that no other package >> PreDepends, Depends, Recommends, or Suggests. > > > Probably the problem is the latest. > > Since I did not install other

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 17:03 +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 04:57:39PM +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > Hi Julian > > > > On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 16:13 +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > I also wrote I am thinking about adding some kind of apt revert command > > >

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On lunes, 21 de diciembre de 2015 16:10:31 (CET) Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Julian Andres Klode: > > If A suggests B, and you install B in some way, you may have come to > > rely on the fact that A is extended by B on your system. > > Automatically removing B could thus cause an unexpected

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 04:57:39PM +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > Hi Julian > > On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 16:13 +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > I also wrote I am thinking about adding some kind of apt revert command > > that allows you to revert entries from apt's history.log, which would

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Julian Andres Klode (2015-12-21 13:43:41) > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 01:35:21PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > > Julian Andres Klode: > > > It just happens that some of the newly installed dependencies are also > > > Suggested by other installed packages, and thus are not

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 03:08:51PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > I'll repeat this one last time for you: If A suggests B, and you > install B in some way, you may have come to rely on the fact that A is > extended by B on your system. Automatically removing B could thus > cause an unexpected

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:35:25 +, Robie Basak wrote: >On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 03:08:51PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: >> I'll repeat this one last time for you: If A suggests B, and you >> install B in some way, you may have come to rely on the fact that A >> is extended by B on your

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 21.12.2015, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Alberto Salvia Novella: > Julian Andres Klode: > > It just happens that some of the newly installed dependencies are > also > > Suggested by other installed packages, and thus are not removed, > > because you might have installed the package in

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Oliver Grawert: well, there is a very simple solution, do not use -y :) > also, an "average user" as describer on the papercuts wiki should > never even have to use apt or a terminal. Isn't that the same as installing a package from the Software Center? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Julian Andres Klode: autoremove will remove all packages that no other package PreDepends, Depends, Recommends, or Suggests. Probably the problem is the latest. Since I did not install other package apart from cortina, probably what is holding back gdm is a package already present in the

Re: Is this list appropriate for technical support?

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
J Fernyhough: Not really. This is one of the reasons developers don't post to it. Wrote a note about it at (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment#Communication) (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperCommunication#Where) Thanks smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature --

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Julian Andres Klode: > It just happens that some of the newly installed dependencies are also > Suggested by other installed packages, and thus are not removed, > because you might have installed the package in order to extend the > functionality of another installed package suggesting it. sudo

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Julian Andres Klode: > If A suggests B, and you install B in some way, you may have come to > rely on the fact that A is extended by B on your system. > Automatically removing B could thus cause an unexpected loss of > functionality. The point I do not understand is why after removing A, being A

Systemd on Ubuntu

2015-12-21 Thread Michael Parchet
Hello, Is it possible to install systemd on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit or should I upgrade Ubuntu ? Thanks for your answer Best regards mparchet -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: Systemd on Ubuntu

2015-12-21 Thread J Fernyhough
On 21 December 2015 at 15:15, Michael Parchet wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible to install systemd on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit or should I > upgrade Ubuntu ? > > Assuming you're running LTS for a reason, your best bet is to wait until 16.04 LTS is released, then upgrade to

Re: Systemd on Ubuntu

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Michael Parchet: Is it possible to install systemd on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit or should I upgrade Ubuntu ? For user support, please refer to (http://www.ubuntu.com/support). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Julian Andres Klode: > Usually it is a Suggests from another existing package. If I run "apt-cache depends gnome-shell", it says: Recommends: gdm Breaks: gdm Is this normal, having a package both as recommended and as breaking? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature --

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

2015-12-21 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Julian Andres Klode: It does not show you version numbers. gnome-shell recommends gdm, because it works best with it, and breaks old gdm versions it does not work with. Okay. Thank you. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list