Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread Brendan Perrine
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:11:50 +0200 Oliver Grawert wrote: > archive will still persist for quite some time, there is to much Well as I think this thread has views as an iso tester for lubuntu sometimes LTS point releases feel some of the most crunched for times in testing. If

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Oli :) let us focus on the things we have in common. IMO you and I do a good job in helping users at Ubuntu users mailing list :). Regarding how often somebody should or should not replace hardware we have different points of view. On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:57:14 +0200, Oliver Grawert

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 12:38:17 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: >hi, >Am Samstag, den 10.09.2016, 12:05 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > >> As already pointed out, recycling or refurbishing for the poor >> already >> is the wrong approach, only using computers for a longer period of >> time >> and

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 10.09.2016, 12:05 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > As already pointed out, recycling or refurbishing for the poor > already > is the wrong approach, only using computers for a longer period of > time > and repairing components of computers, instead of replacing them > completely

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 04:56:02 -0400, JMZ wrote: >On 09/10/2016 04:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > >> Technical progress is not the same as human progress. Computer >> progress is just required in a few domains, that are completely >> irrelevant for most computer users, but human kind needs progress,

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread JMZ
On 09/10/2016 04:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Technical progress is not the same as human progress. Computer progress is just required in a few domains, that are completely irrelevant for most computer users, but human kind needs progress, we can't continue our social and ecological misbehaviour

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2016-09-10 at 03:55 -0400, JMZ wrote: > On 09/09/2016 06:06 PM, Thierry Andriamirado wrote: > > Le 9 septembre 2016 04:00:12 UTC+03:00, Simos Xenitellis a écrit : > > > > > > Considering that at least until 2021 we will be fine regarding 32- > > > bit support, I think it would be good to

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-10 Thread JMZ
Rural SBC clusters might work. A 64-bit multi-core SBC cluster in the mairie? Homes use recycled 32-bit boxes with low RAM and a small hard drive. This will be enough to log into the SBC for data or internet when available. It's okay if the 32-bit kernels are not updated that much. We just