PS: Green hard disk drives

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:09:47 +0200, I wrote: To be continued... There's no need to run smartctl again. I sit side by side to the green drive and without gvfs, libfm, lxpanel, udisks2, spacefm, rodent packages installed, something waked up the green drive. I didn't start any Qt or KDE based

Green hard disk drives

Hi, sorry for cross-posting, but there's quasi no traffic at Ubuntu devel discuss, so I hope somebody subscribed to Ubuntu Studio devel has got an idea, how to find the culprit. A few days ago I tried to fix an issue cause by lxpanel, respl. by a dependency of it, libfm. This issue is fixed by

How to file a bug against an unknown package? - Was: Green hard disk drives

Any ideas how to file a bug against unknown buggy software, or perhaps a bad unknown Ubuntu specific configuration? A bug report is useless, since I don't know what package does cause the issue. :D Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:26:25 - From: Ubuntu Foundations Team

Re: How to file a bug against an unknown package? - Was: Green hard disk drives

Thank you, unfortunately it doesn't help. On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:12:23 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote: I'm not sure if I understood your issue correctly, but I also have a server with a mechanical disk which periodically spins, don't know why. There are tools like powertop or so, but I guess

Re: Green hard disk drives

Thank you for your reply, a lot of people trying to help me guess I need to fix my green WD drive. The drive is ok, does exactly what it should do and what it must do regarding an EU Regulation for external drives. It does not happen for Linux in general. It happens for my Ubuntu install, not

Re: Green hard disk drives

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:39:05 +, Michael Bejer-Andersen wrote: Have you looked into lm-profiler(http://linux.die.net/man/8/lm-profiler) to hopefully catch what is waking up the drive? No, I didn't. Thank you, I now have laptop-mode-tools + 29 dependency packages installed. Btw. it's a tower

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:52:20 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:32:42 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: unfounded FUD What next? Actually everything I pointed out is correct, it's not unfounded FUD. Even

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:40:23 -0400, Tom H wrote: It's a bit messy, SOMETIMES. Hi Tom, I'm aware that it wasn't you who blamed me for spreading unfounded FUD, it was Oliver and at the same time he mentioned backwards compatibility, inter-distro-compatibility, the feature that one command does it

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 12:38:35 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote: does it mean I'm not using systemd? I don't seem to have systemd installed (Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS). AFAIK systemd is default for 15.04 and 15.10 only. [root@moonstudio ~]# dpkg -s systemd | grep -A1 Installing Installing the systemd

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:56:34 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 15:41 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: Btw. I'm still not used to systemd after using it for around 3 years, but for my workflow a clean systemd at least is easier to handle, than the Wily hybrid. You

Re: How to file a bug against an unknown package? - Was: Green hard disk drives

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:47:33 -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote: On 08/14/2015 10:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 01:33:46 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote: On 08/15/2015 01:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: As already pointed out, the drive in question is _sdc_, not _sdb_ What about kworker

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:43:50 -0400, Luis Mondesi wrote: When you do a clean install of 15.10 you get the Full Systemd Experience ™ It's very awkward for the first 30 seconds or so, but one gets used to its quirks very fast. Cannot really complaint about it. Just continue on... Hi Luis, I

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:36:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Imagine you'll maintain your install, using a workflow that can be used for a clean systemd install. [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ systemctl list-unit-files | grep alice alice.service enabled [weremouse@moonstudio

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:03:02 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: ubuntus upstream is debian in this case ... ... but systemd's upstream is _not_ Debian. I already wrote: it's off topic and we don't need to discuss it. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

Re: Green hard disk drives

Update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1484497/comments/4 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1484497/comments/5 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: Errors when building a kernel

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:08:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: Are you editing .config manually? Yes ... if yes, why don't you use make menuconfig (or another config target) because there are dependencies that you can't account for when using vi/nano/emacs/whatever. ... OTOH if you get an error for

Re: Errors when building a kernel

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:26:24 -0400, Tom H wrote: You seemed to imply in your first email that the above was failing (IIRC!). If the above's working, where's the problem? This does work to build kernel packages, so I don't need howtos about building kernels. I asked for help regarding the issues I

Re: Errors when building a kernel

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:49:57 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: Am Freitag, den 21.08.2015, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:26:35 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile ... I can't see were this link provides information regarding

Re: Errors when building a kernel

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:26:35 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile ... I can't see were this link provides information regarding my questions. I know how to build a kernel. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: Errors when building a kernel

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:20:33 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: if you just want to know if an arch kernel wakes up your disk when running with ubuntu userspace you could as well just copy over the binaries from a running arch system. Or just edit grub.cfg to mix the Arch kernel with the Ubuntu

Re: Errors when building a kernel

Thank you, but building a kernel in general isn't a problem for me. On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:30:44 +0100, Robie Basak wrote: Are you aware of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds? It should be trivial to try non-Ubuntu-modified kernels on Ubuntu as the kernel team build them for us. This

Re: Errors when building a kernel

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:10:01 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Samstag, den 22.08.2015, 13:21 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: Perhaps you understand an analogy. Doing it that way would be like measuring with a meter, that is powered by the same current source as the circuit you'll measure. IOW I

Re: Jump start help needed.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:24:36 -0300, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Ubuntu have something very cool, for example, let say you want to have the java command, but you don't have it installed... Well, Ubuntu will tell you which package brings the java command if you type it at the console! The

Re: Errors when building a kernel

Tom's hint is useful, menuconfig's search option does the trick, I seemingly got rid of MPILIB=m. Thank you. Regards, Ralf [1] [root@moonstudio src]# export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2;wget https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.10.61.tar.gz

[solved] Errors when building a kernel

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:54:22 +0200, I wrote: Tom's hint is useful, menuconfig's search option does the trick, I seemingly got rid of MPILIB=m. Thank you. Thank you Tom :) I was able to build the kernel packages and the Wily install currently runs the kernel successfully. [weremouse@moonstudio

Re: Green hard disk drives

Update: 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1484497/comments/6 2. Running ps aux I found /usr/sbin/smartd -n. [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ man smartd [snip] smartd will attempt to enable SMART monitoring on ATA devices (equivalent to smartctl -s on) and polls these

[solved] Green hard disk drives

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:59:37 -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: To be continued... Smartd documents -n by itself as no-fork (normal for systemd/upstarted stuff) but you also need to configure nocheck whichconfusingly is documented as -n POWERMODE

Errors when building a kernel

Hi, I try to build a kernel for Wily, that is as close as possible to a kernel I use for Arch Linux. The reason is, that for the Arch install Green drives don't run berserk and I anyway need a 3.x-rt. I ensured that a Green drive stays asleep and copied the Arch Linux kernel config to my Ubuntu

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:32:42 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: unfounded FUD What next? Actually everything I pointed out is correct, it's not unfounded FUD. Even you mentioned that not all services are ported over. It's not that hard for me to make a profound comparison between an Arch Linux

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:37:04 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: i havent called anything transparent, you have called the boot process a mess and pointed to pointless proof I was speaking about transparency and I called the absence of transparency a mess. Your claim is, that it isn't a mess, so the

Re: Green hard disk drives

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:40:55 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote: Maybe you could help me clarify something from your experience: in my case, since the disk I'm talking about is the system disk (root partition) it is almost impossible to have it go to sleep, right? I don't know. Assumed that even an

Issues with building Ubuntu packages

Hi, actually this is a user request, but on the user list it was recommended to send my request to this list, so I give it a go. This is the original request: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2015-August/282029.html Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: How to file a bug against an unknown package? - Was: Green hard disk drives

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:11:54 -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: Maybe try a little harder to ID the process causing the wakeup? Have you tried looking for blocked processes at the moment you hear the drive start to spin up? Look for processes in D state at the time the drive is spinning up. Thank

Re: How to file a bug against an unknown package? - Was: Green hard disk drives

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 00:57:42 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote: If jbd2 is writing 12.8 times per min how can your disk spin down after 30 min? As already pointed out, the drive in question is _sdc_, not _sdb_ [1]. Regards, Ralf [1] On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 23:20:25 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: [snip

Re: How to file a bug against an unknown package? - Was: Green hard disk drives

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 01:33:46 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote: On 08/15/2015 01:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: As already pointed out, the drive in question is _sdc_, not _sdb_ What about kworker? I wonder, if AppArmor or any of the other software I didn't chose to install myself could be the culprit

Re: Green hard disk drives

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 19:47:28 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote: With option commit=50 in the ext4 partitions I was able to reduce jbd2 IO frequency. But the disk keeps spinning on/off with a frequency of around 10 s. So jdb2 (which was also a problem for Arch Linux users, saw it in a post from

Re: Liferea unwanted deps

Hi, Consider not to install all optional dependencies. sudo - i apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get install --no-install-recommends liferea Regarding http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/liferea consider to run also: apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-keyring Regards, Ralf--

Re: Liferea unwanted deps

> There's a reported bug about this. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/1503352 > > Seems that liferea has steadyflow and kget listed as recommends - and > steadyflow is not available in Wily. sudo apt-get no-install-recommends kget anyway likely reduces the list of

Security

Schneier once mentioned that he has got two computers. One is connected to the Internet, the other isn't ;). Regarding security concerns people should consider to use containers. An expert should chime in, perhaps FreeBSD jails are better than Linux containers. However, I'm using

Re: Feature request: "Restart to ..." option

On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:40:42 +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: >i assume on an ubuntu system you would rather use lxc/lxd Also available for other major distros, so there are several alternatives to a reboot. For maintaining another distro when booted to Ubuntu and vice versa, systemd-nspawn for my

Re: Feature request: "Restart to ..." option

If you need it right now, you could write a script, however, that's not the reason for my reply. The reason is, that I want to mention, that sometimes a reboot isn't required, chroot or systemd-nspawn makes it unnecessary to reboot, at least for some purpose. sudo systemd-nspawn -qD

Re: On fresh installation of beta 2, DSL/PPPoE doesn't work

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:33:10 +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote: >I've reported this days before 15.04 release, there were no time to fix >before that release. >https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1446689 >Now, we are approaching 15.10, the fix should be straight forward,

Re: Community Council election

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:59:47 +, Biesenbach, Jens wrote: >Please add me if you could unsubscribe me too. Someone set me on this >list and i have no password at all. I try since years to get out of >any Ubuntu stuff. > >Please erase me from all lists! > >Thanks if someone can help. Jens, we

Information about Debian/Ubuntu patches add to packages

Hi, if you build libfm based on apt-get source libfm you'll get 15 packages. A while back I build version 1.2.3.58.g47d0c1dd7d, IOW from git. [1] For testing purpose I installed the packages from the official repositories. Excluded are the dbg, doc and dev packages, the remaining packages are

Re: [solved] Green hard disk drives

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:28:37 +0100, TJ wrote: I've followed the issue with interest. Glad you finally identified the cause. I wonder if smartd ought to be taught to check the power/sleep state of a device and only query it if it is currently awake/active? I don't know if this is possible and

Re: [solved] Green hard disk drives

PS: Don't get me wrong. jackd does not wake up green drives, I only mentioned it to demonstrate that by installing a package, it possible to interact with the user. I don't have all those gnomeish file managers installed for my Wily install, neither K3b and the KDE archive manager are

Re: Information about Debian/Ubuntu patches add to packages

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:02:38 +0100, Robie Basak wrote: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ Thank you, this way it at least is easier to search. For example: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libfm | |-https://sources.debian.net/src/libfm/1.2.3-1/debian/patches/

Re: Ubuntu Server : Installation process

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 12:12:40 +0900, Alberto Lepe wrote: >1) COLLECT INFO BEFORE INSTALL: It could be great if all questions are >asked as soon as possible so you can leave the installation unattended >until it finished. Why, because you don't have that much time, to install a minimalist server

Re: Getting ubuntu iso securely

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:39:00 -0700, Ryein Goddard wrote: >Probably a good idea to have something on the site reminding users to >verify the download. Especially something as important as the >operating system. Several times I put this issue in on *buntu mailing lists. Even if the download

Re: Getting ubuntu iso securely

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 16:19:36 + (UTC), rajeev bhatta wrote: >It is not time consuming.. just for the user experience.. Hi, IMHO for averaged users it is time consuming. Even a power users not necessarily deals with the right people to get a key she or he can trust, that can be used to verify

Re: Getting ubuntu iso securely

Even an Windows user could use the checksums as described by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto using any Linux live media. A chicken-and-egg problem will stay, as long as the user doesn't own trusted keys to verify ownership of the Ubuntu key, that was used to sign the image's

Re: GRSecurity Closes Stable Patch of Linux Kernel, Your opinion?

Hi, there were already discussions about violations of the GPL on Linux audio lists, but I have forgotten if it's allowed to provide the source to customers only. IMO it doesn't matter what's allowed and what isn't allowed, there's an ethical commitment to keep source code open. Another issue is

Re: Getting ubuntu iso securely

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:07:02 -0700, Ryein Goddard wrote: >On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 16:19:36 + (UTC), rajeev bhatta wrote: >> >It is not time consuming.. just for the user experience.. >> >> IMHO for averaged us

Re: Please implement Click-lock

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 10:03:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >For Linux we usually do this with the Shift-key or the Ctrl-key >depending on what exactly we want select, in combination with the mouse >button. My apologies, I meant that we push one of those keys and move the mouse, there'

Re: Please implement Click-lock

I noticed that the smart keyboard-key selection works with spacefm, but not with rodent, but rodent provides a GUI in combination with selecting by wild cards. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

qt5ct for Wily

Hi, does somebody know a link that introduces how to build qt5 applications for Wily? My Internet connection is very slow at the moment, so web research is very hard to do. Btw. is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ relatively often down at the moment? Often I cannot reach it, while my Interconnection

Re: Please implement Click-lock

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:18:04 +0200, Markus M. wrote: >There are quite a lot of similar solutions, but none does exactly what >Windows Click-lock does and there's no other good way, nobody on QA >sites seemed to be satisfied with these, including myself. As this is >to simplify input, especially

systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

Hi, by default Wily's /etc/resolv.conf is a link against ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf. If you want to maintain Wily from another install in a systemd-nspawn container, the link needs to be replaced by a file /etc/resolv.conf. Since Wily is based on systemd by itself, it IMO should care

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:03:32 -0400, Tom H wrote: > chroot_add_mount /etc/resolv.conf "$resolv_conf" --bind >} > >So they mount the host's resolv.conf on the chroot's. > >And there's the following patch in lxc 0.7.5-3ubuntu69: > ># cat 0031-ubuntu-template-resolvconf.patch >Description: handle

Re: qt5ct for Wily

Thank you, On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:40:37 +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote: >> [weremouse@moonstudio qt5ct-0.17]$ qtchooser -qt=5 -run-tool=qmake >> PREFIX=/usr/local > >Just use export QT_SELECT=5 (or export QT_SELECT := 5 in debian/rules) >and run qmake normally. I already tried this too and it doesn't

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:51:35 -0400, Tom H wrote: >On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf ><ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: >> >> by default Wily's /etc/resolv.conf is a link against >> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf. If you want to maintain Wily from >>

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:51:35 -0400, Tom H wrote: >"systemd-nspawn -bD ...". I missed this. -b --boot I'll test it now ... -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:19:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:51:35 -0400, Tom H wrote: >>"systemd-nspawn -bD ...". > >I missed this. > > -b --boot > >I'll test it now ... [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo mv -i /mnt/moonstudio/etc/resolv.conf

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

Thank you Tom for taking the time. On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:36:27 -0400, Tom H wrote: >systemd-resolved is a service not a package. Ok, I didn't know it. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ systemctl status systemd-resolved ● systemd-resolved.service - Network Name Resolution Loaded: loaded

Re: Freeradius package updates

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:56:20 +, Greg Antic wrote: > >The views expressed in this email are, unless otherwise stated, >those of the author and not those of Smart Technology Centre or >its management. The information in this email

Re: Freeradius package updates

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:02:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:56:20 +, Greg Antic wrote: >> >>The views expressed in this email are, unless otherwise stated, >>those of the author and not thos

Re: about break upstart

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:39:05 +0800, yan...@iscas.ac.cn wrote: >when I install lsb-base,but it tell me it will break >upstart(<<1.12.1-0ubuntu8)) What does it mean? Need I update the >upstart? What exactly does it tell you? Copy and paste the output you get. Which Ubuntu release do you use? Are

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:35:25 +, Robie Basak wrote: >On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 03:08:51PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: >> I'll repeat this one last time for you: If A suggests B, and you >> install B in some way, you may have come to rely on the fact that A >> is extended by B on your

Re: Wallpapers for Ubuntu 16.04

It's nice to discover lights and things in the road building lines, when taking a look at Night Lights. https://www.flickr.com/photos/138596056@N03/23769648846/in/album-72157661899610660/lightbox/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: Please, complete this bug report

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:49:53 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: >Please enter any package manager that is unlisted in: >https://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/1528028 "For example if I install the "cortina" package, it takes with it the GNOME Display Manager and plenty of wallpapers. Then if I

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

Hi Alberto, seemingly you can't provide new arguments, so you should expect to get the same replies and perhaps some subscribers consider it as trolling or spamming, so that they don't read mails of this thread anymore. On Sun, 27 Dec 2015 15:22:02 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:03:16 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: >Ralf Mardorf: > > Seemingly you can't provide new arguments, so you should expect to > > get the same replies and perhaps some subscribers consider it as > > trolling or spamming, so that they don't read

Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?

Hi Alberto, On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 01:50:45 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: >What if: >- "remove" removes a package and all the unused depends, recommends >and suggests. >- but before removing asks the user to exclude packages from the >removal, and from that moment marks those as installed by

Re: Please, complete this bug report

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:23:47 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: >Ralf Mardorf: >> It's not a bug of the package management, it's an user error. > >What is the likelihood of these people making the error?: >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Average%20use

Re: Packaging an application

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:11:53 +0530, Lloyd wrote: >I understand that dpkg wont install the dependencies. Assumed all dependencies should be available by the repositories $ sudo -i # cd path/to/package/ # apt-get update && dpkg -i --force-depends packagename.deb && apt-get install -f might do

Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 11:33:57 +0100, Abel wrote: >It's a bad practice to have different versions of GNOME software in the >same system, since GNOME is thought to have all the GNOME Framework >using the same version. I suspect that there's a clash of interests. Isn't UNITY based a lot on GNOME?

Re: GNOME Files (Nautilus) very out-dated

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:43:18 +0100, Abel wrote: >I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64 bits and I've noticed that GNOME Files >(Nautilus) application is in version 3.14.2, while most of the other >GNOME apps on 15.10 are in 3.16.2. On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:12:25 +0800, kahping wrote: >gEdit is 3.10.4 which is

Re: Skype not installable on trusty

On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 05:08 -0800, Daniel Holbach wrote: >  - on systems where skype is installed already apt >    updates/installations are now broken There are claims that skype is often used for radio interviews, perhaps somebody subscribed to 

Re: Mounting Documents folder from iOS

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:52:52 -0800, Mike M wrote: >For a few releases I have not been able to mount the Documents folder >of my iOS devices under Ubuntu. This prevents me from copying large >videos via cable over to VLC for viewing (instead of typing urls and >slower wifi). I run iTunes on a

Re: Feature request: module [pam_limits]

# @foo softnproc 20 @foo hardnproc 50 Every user who is _not_ in the group "foo", simply is _not_ in this group, it makes completely no sense to introduce a negation of being in a group, since the negation is already not being member

Re: dark theme out of the box

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:19:59 +0100, Alex ARNAUD wrote: >Ubuntu Mate as I know provide dark theme. Gnome3 also provides >contract theme. I don't use Unity so I don't know anything about it. Do those dark theme work flawlessly with all apps using different versions of Qt, GTK or whatsoever? What

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:10:08 +0200, Xen wrote: >Tom H schreef op 31-03-16 10:38: >> The only way to push for a change is to file an RFE bug with >> upstream. > >Lots of people give up before they even try. Please provide evidences for this claim. Did you even try? Assumed you want to know if

Re: Subversion is not available now?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:56:27 +, LI, NING wrote: >Now why it says "E: Unable to locate package subversion" and "E: >Unable to locate package libapache2-svn" by issuing command "$ apt-get >install subversion" and "$ apt-get install libapache2-svn", >respectively? > >These commands are listed on

Re: Collaboration from ubuntuBSD project

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 20:54:46 +0200, Jon Boden wrote: >I'm the developer of ubuntuBSD, an Ubuntu derivative which runs the >Ubuntu system in combination with the FreeBSD kernel (similar to >Debian GNU/kFreeBSD). Hi, as a user, I'm not a developer, I would welcome an official Ubuntu FreeBSD port

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

PS: FWIW reagrding your request Xfe also is a PITA. Note, an advantage of SpceFM, Rodent and Thunar (Thunar at least without gvfs) is, that they allow to delete items with the delete key, while other file managers don't delete, they usually only allow to move to trash (~/.local/share/Trash/).

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

PPS: I suspect that Nautilus provides to add plugin/action scripts, for SpaceFM you can write "tools" scripts. IOW when using the variable "%f" you could write a script that copies to the clip board or opens a terminal with the full path etc.. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

PPPS: On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:47:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >PPS: > >I suspect that Nautilus provides to add plugin/action scripts, for >SpaceFM you can write "tools" scripts. IOW when using the variable "%f" >you could write a script that copies to

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

I guess you need to file a feature request to upstream, IOW to the GNOME bug tracker. I'm not using Nautilus, but if you use Thunar, and the address bar e.g. shows /home/rocketmouse/ while .bogofilter is selected and you Ctrl+A and Ctrl+C in the address bar, you get /home/rocketmouse/.bogofilter

Re: OT: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:51:02 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: >ROXTerm is just re-using the VTE terminal widget that was written as >part of GNOME Terminal, of course, and VTE has supported this for a >very long time. A lot of gnome-terminal users dropped gnome-terminal and switched to roxterm for good

Re: the fragile boot process [on encryption setups and home data]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:20:15 +0200, Tom H wrote: >If you add "nofail" to an fstab entry's options, the generated mount >unit "wants" local-fs.target or remote-fs.target and boot won't fail >if it fails. The OP expect this to be the default, perhaps the OP expects all users have the same needs as

Re: the fragile boot process [on encryption setups and home data]

Bart, you're confusing Ubuntu defaults with Linux. Ubuntu is a Linux distro, but it's not Linux. 1. Ubuntu isn't the only distro, some distros have different defaults, e.g. boot not necessarily hangs, if something in fstab isn't available. 2. FHS compliance is a good thing and you seemingly

Re: the fragile boot process [on encryption setups and home data]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:20:15 +0200, Tom H wrote: >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:23 AM, Xen wrote: >> >> If the halt-on-fstab-problem is Ubuntu related, then it is clear my >> message should have been sent here and not some other Linux distro >> or whatever. > >The

OT: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:42:01 +0100, Colin Law wrote: >On 31 March 2016 at 12:47, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> >wrote: >> ... >> Does any of the bloatware desktop environments terminal emulations >> auto-wrap lines, if you resize the window? In more th

Re: How to recompile 'gcc-4.9-4.9.2' package with different prefix?

On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 20:25:57 +0300, Valeriy Solovyov wrote: >On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 4:06 PM, YunQiang Su wrote: >>On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:55:34 +0300, Valeriy Solovyov wrote: >>>> >&

Immutable Page

Hi, I suspect that all Ubuntu Wiki and help pages aren't editable, due to the issues Ubuntu pages had a few days ago. Is there already a date, when those sites become editable again? Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: Immutable Page

On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 20:43 +0100, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote: > as far as I am aware you need to be in the etherpad users launchpad  > group to edit > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad Thank you, when did this change? I always could log in with my launchpad/Ubuntu one account and edit

Re: Feature suggestion - install packages as noon root using apt-get

It's not that simple. You can not just provide a --non-root option for apt-get and dpkg, that simply redirect installing to $HOME/bin, $HOME/lib etc., since a lot of packages require the root privileges to add system wide variables, change security settings etc., some content of packages anyway

Re: [pulseaudio] Enable support for libsoxr

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:16:46 +0300, Andrey Semashev wrote: >Should I create a bug report asking for this feature? I'm not a developer/maintainer, but I'm quite sure that you need to do this. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: Tool for resetting Ubuntu to distro defaults

On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:25:18 +0200, Abel wrote: >I think it'd be very useful having a tool for resetting to Ubuntu >distro defaults just straight from Ubuntu OS and not having to set up >a live USB and doing all the job along with the issue of that the user >could destroy or break his/hers Home

Re: Make main directories accessible using English names in the terminal on a Chinese localized UI

On Sat, 14 May 2016 02:38:09 +, darn urash wrote: >Is it possible that Ubuntu could be just like it's in as OS X, that >even if those directories are translated, you also can access them >using their English names in the terminal? I don't know, but perhaps a workaround helps, e.g. a link.

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