Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-16 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/15/2012 02:50 AM, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/03/12 14:44, Rodney Dawes wrote: Ditën e Wed, 14/03/2012 më 14.21 +0200, Timo Jyrinki ka shkruar: Sure it's the good ol' laggy Gwibber, Can you please clarify what you mean by laggy here? And are

Fwd: Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-16 Thread Kai Mast
On 12.03.2012 01:04, Ken VanDine wrote: The real problem we have with Gwibber is lack of contributors, we only have a few regular contributors all with other responsibilities. Fortunately I get to do some work on Gwibber as part of my day job working for Canonical, which is awesome. However,

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/14 Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com: Can you please clarify what you mean by laggy here? And are there bugs open for what you mean by your use of the term? The smooth scroll bug covers it mostly, but some specifics might use separate bug reports. At least the following come to

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-15 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/03/12 14:44, Rodney Dawes wrote: Ditën e Wed, 14/03/2012 më 14.21 +0200, Timo Jyrinki ka shkruar: Sure it's the good ol' laggy Gwibber, Can you please clarify what you mean by laggy here? And are there bugs open for what you mean by your

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-14 Thread Chris Jones
On 03/10/2012 09:11 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Is there anybody actually using Gwibber on a daily basic? I have it uninstalled on all my machines and use Twitter through the Web-Interface. fwiw, I leave it open all day on my workstation. However, I wouldn't have a problem if I had to install

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-14 Thread Chris Coulson
On 14/03/12 10:03, Chris Jones wrote: To be honest, I can't stand anything to do with Gwibber and also agree that it should be removed from the default install. And anyone with half an understanding of programming code knows that Gwibber is terrible by design. Regards Chris Jones I'm

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-14 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/12 Ken VanDine ken.vand...@canonical.com: For those that haven't tried the latest version, I really suggest getting 3.3.91 and taking that for a spin.  Most of the effort we've put into it recently have been quality, so no stunning changes but more reliability.  Duplicate detection and

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
Ditën e Wed, 14/03/2012 më 14.21 +0200, Timo Jyrinki ka shkruar: Sure it's the good ol' laggy Gwibber, Can you please clarify what you mean by laggy here? And are there bugs open for what you mean by your use of the term? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-14 Thread Andreas Moog
On 14.03.2012 15:44, Rodney Dawes wrote: Ditën e Wed, 14/03/2012 më 14.21 +0200, Timo Jyrinki ka shkruar: Sure it's the good ol' laggy Gwibber, Can you please clarify what you mean by laggy here? And are there bugs open for what you mean by your use of the term? I don't know if Timo means

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-12 Thread Rick Spencer
On 03/10/2012 09:11 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Is there anybody actually using Gwibber on a daily basic? I have it uninstalled on all my machines and use Twitter through the Web-Interface. fwiw, I leave it open all day on my workstation. However, I wouldn't have a problem if I had to install

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-12 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com wrote: * Performance Improvements (Gwibber seems very laggy) I can't say I've never seen gwibber suffer a bit from lagginess, though it's hard to say how much or when that was happening exactly, and pinpointing it to a

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-12 Thread David Klasinc
Greetings, My input here will not be completely unbiased, because time to time, I hack on Gwibber and I help with minor patches here and there. Nevertheless, I am probably one of the first people complaining to Ken about things that are broken or half broken. OP suggested removal of Gwibber

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
I don't think a couple of people expressing a little frustration with a couple of missing or removed features, is a good reason to remove something from the default install. Even if I use the Twitter web site to interact with it, and gwibber is slow to update, it is useful to see the

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Bedwell, Jordon
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: I don't think a couple of people expressing a little frustration with a couple of missing or removed features, is a good reason to remove something from the default install. Why? You guys think a few people

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 12:46 -0500, Bedwell, Jordon wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: I don't think a couple of people expressing a little frustration with a couple of missing or removed features, is a good reason to remove something

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Bedwell, Jordon
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: Even if I use the Twitter web site to interact with it, and gwibber is slow to update, it is useful to see the notifications which pop up due to gwibber running on my system (though I have a bug with where the

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Conscious User
Em 10-03-2012 17:01, Kai Mast escreveu: Hey Guys, I would like to open a discussion about removing Gwibber from the default install. Gwibber has several defects that make it way worse to use than the Twitter-Website. - No support for Twitters Streaming API makes it a lot slower than the

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Evan Huus
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Kai Mast kai.m...@freakybytes.org wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to open a discussion about removing Gwibber from the default install. Gwibber has several defects that make it way worse to use than the Twitter-Website. - No support for Twitters Streaming API

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 17:21 -0400, Evan Huus wrote: If the Twitter website is sufficiently fast and feature-full that Gwibber can never provide sufficient advantage to outweigh it's cost in maintenance and CD space, then the correct solution is to remove it. If it is believed that it can, in

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 15:37 -0500, Bedwell, Jordon wrote: I don't need to troll Canonical, you lot do just fine at that by yourselves. But I'll leave it to a Canonical employee to assume that everybody who disagrees must be a troll and therefore is one by default because they are blunt and

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Bedwell, Jordon
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 15:37 -0500, Bedwell, Jordon wrote: I don't need to troll Canonical, you lot do just fine at that by yourselves.  But I'll leave it to a Canonical employee to assume that everybody who

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Bedwell, Jordon
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote: 2012/3/11 Bedwell, Jordon jor...@envygeeks.com: Remember, the Canonical usability test only consisted of 15 people (that sir, is a huge and I mean HUGE sample group) and that was good enough for ya'll this right here is a

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Ken VanDine
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 17:21 -0400, Evan Huus wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Kai Mast kai.m...@freakybytes.org wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to open a discussion about removing Gwibber from the default install. Gwibber has several defects

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Evan Huus
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Ken VanDine ken.vand...@ubuntu.com wrote: First thing is to remember the reasoning behind including gwibber in Ubuntu wasn't to provide a twitter client, it was for social networking integration in the desktop. Provide an easy way to share information with

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/11/2012 07:14 PM, Evan Huus wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Ken VanDine ken.vand...@ubuntu.com mailto:ken.vand...@ubuntu.com wrote: First thing is to remember the reasoning behind including gwibber in Ubuntu wasn't to provide a twitter client, it was for social

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Bedwell, Jordon
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com wrote: * Performance Improvements (Gwibber seems very laggy) * GUI Improvements (I would love the ability to have columns much like TweetDeck/Hootsuite and other popular social clients) * Bit.ly Integration and TwitPic

Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-10 Thread Kai Mast
Hey Guys, I would like to open a discussion about removing Gwibber from the default install. Gwibber has several defects that make it way worse to use than the Twitter-Website. - No support for Twitters Streaming API makes it a lot slower than the Website NOTE: This feature is nearly 2 years

Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-10 Thread Kai Mast
Hey Guys, I would like to open a discussion about removing Gwibber from the default install. Gwibber has several defects that make it way worse to use than the Twitter-Website. - No support for Twitters Streaming API makes it a lot slower than the Website NOTE: This feature is nearly 2

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-10 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/10/2012 12:01 PM, Kai Mast wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to open a discussion about removing Gwibber from the default install. Gwibber has several defects that make it way worse to use than the Twitter-Website. - No support for Twitters Streaming API makes it a lot slower than the