Raising i18n awareness among developers

2007-08-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hello, I'd like to raise some internationalization issues Ubuntu has faced and is facing currently. As a translator and user of Ubuntu in my native language I've sometimes felt that it would be useful to have better awareness of i18n issues among the developers in general. I hope this will help

Re: Deprecating slocate for desktop users?

2008-01-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Chris Jones kirjoitti: Speaking for myself, I regularly use slocate to find things that are outside my home directory (not that I use tracker for things that are in my home directory - I put them where they are, so I know where they are ;) I also use slocate sometimes, and I don't use tracker

Re: Reminders: 1. UI freeze == string freeze, notifications needed for translators. 2. please remember i18n.

2008-03-10 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/8, Scott Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does string freeze include changes to package descriptions? Not sure if I'm the correct person to answer this, but I'd say no. Package description translations is not what Ubuntu translators do every day, or at least Ubuntu doesn't offer a framework

Remaining i18n/localization issues in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, please fix your packages and use non-English yourself

2008-03-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, some i18n nagging from me again, yay! First of all, I'd hope that developers that are non-native English speakers or otherwise handle other languages fluently, would use that language in their desktop environment eg. for the rest of hardy cycle at least occasionally. Most non-developers use

Re: What happened to IcedTea in Hardy?

2008-03-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/23, Thilo Six [EMAIL PROTECTED]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-java7/+bug/203636 I don't think that answers the last question, since the current openjdk-6-* packages do not include Java browser plugin. So is there a specific openjdk-6 browser plugin coming, or is there

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/31, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A better solution in my opinion would be to move the Applications - System Tools submenu to a System - Tools submenu. I agree that the current setup is very poor, for the reasons already presented. If the System - Tools is unfeasible at this point,

Re: i18n in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS - great work! ( current status)

2008-04-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/4/20 (``-_-´´) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'll have to look for our bug number and report back, but as you can see, this is a major showstopper, because any Portuguese Ubuntu User will be presented with and English GUI of OOo. Is this a question of CD space? Hi. Unfortunately the

Re: i18n in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS - great work! ( current status)

2008-04-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/4/21 Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In cases where that's not possible, I think the current approach of having the language selector install the missing pieces is better. Yes, without any Internet connection available during install, post-install should have enough guiding for the

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/6/9 Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was a Banshee user for about 9 months or so. That ended a year ago. Unless it's changed, Banshee only recognizes songs you have imported. It does not monitor directories for new songs, and especially not recursively. Yep, and for this very

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/7 Emmet Hikory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While we all tend to be busy much of the time, perhaps there are ways that we can improve the view of bugs in need of attention, or otherwise help understand which bugs are likely to be perceived as painful to users at release time. I think the single

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/7 Bryce Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the single most needed feature in Launchpad regarding this would be the possibility for voting, as done in bugzilla. I don't know if I necessarily agree with this. Voting may feel good from a user perspective and certainly couldn't hurt,

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/11 Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That doesn't require a script. For example, bugs targeted to intrepid-alpha-2, sorted by number of duplicates: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?orderby=-number_of_duplicatesfield.milestone%3Alist=1320 Cool, didn't know that! Added to

Re: Boot-time improvements

2008-09-10 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/9/9 Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. Remove the flashes and brown screens when starting Gnome Personally, my biggest annoyance as a user is the brown screen that flashes between GDM and when Gnome starts. It would be much nicer if gdm displayed the greeter for half a

Re: Boot-time improvements

2008-09-11 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/9/10 Przemysław Kulczycki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe we could achieve it using Prefetch? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Prefetch https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticBootAndApplicationPrefetchingSpec Prefetch would be nice, and definitely would improve the user experience. In the

Re: Boot-time improvements

2008-09-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/9/11 Krzysztof Lichota [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As an author of Prefetch, I cannot agree that it would not fix seeks ;) Part of my implementation, not enabled by default as it is highly experimental, is ext3 defragmenter which puts all files for prefetch in one place on disk, so the requests to

Re: Boot-time improvements

2008-09-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/9/12 Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the mailing list here. So, as a test, I timed my own system how long it takes to boot. From GRUB boot to login screen, it was 36.72 secs. And that is on a Celeron D with 512MB DDR RAM and booting from an old IDE hard drive. I'd imagine that a more

Re: Boot-time improvements

2008-09-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/9/12 Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You have 25-35 seconds from GRUB till desktop appearing (using autologin)? i have managed 22 already with a not to drastic set of modifications (19 after grub [1] plus the three second grub timeout) with the ten seconds my BIOS takes that even stays

Re: OpenOffice 3 and Firefox 3.1 in Intrepid?

2008-09-27 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/9/5 Chris Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: released on Sept 8 which puts the final release around Oct 20. That doesn't leave enough time to make it even marginally stable, since that would be only 3 days before the Intrepid release candidate. Note that there are also dependencies like

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 significantly slower than previous versions

2008-11-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
I wonder how this discussion is able to drift so much away from the actual subject on both ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-devel-discuss. Many people do not want to believe results or just point out one or two of them are meaningless (like NVIDIA graphics performance with closed drivers is not that

Re: Go-OOO.org?

2008-12-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/12/30 Joe Terranova joeterran...@gmail.com: a) Open Office (and its derivatives I assume) is a bear to package. Transition packages between releases open up more points of failure. Will Go-Ooo.org last, or die in 2 months? Is anyone btw familiar how much of go-oo.org is Novell's business

Re: translating the categories in the totem BBC plugin or not?

2009-03-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/3/6 Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com: The change add the list of categories to the translatable strings and I would gather some opinion on whether people think that's a good idea or not knowing that the media content available is in english. I'd think it's enough that the actual titles

Re: Reason for removing animation from Gnome login?

2009-03-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/3/23 Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt: Personally, for me the desktop startup is (or feels) I/O-bound, with the panel applets showing up one by one with agonizing pauses in between and the disk running at full throttle. Yes, it is. In jaunty, the current warm start (everything in cache, ie.

Re: Reason for removing animation from Gnome login?

2009-03-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/3/25 Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt: I'm wondering why readahead doesn't load all those thousands of small files needed for desktop startup during boot, before I try to log in. I'm guessing that it just doesn't know the particular ones that I need - everyone's GNOME settings are different,

Thanks to you all, 9.04 will be a great release in all languages

2009-04-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, This is just a small ”thank you” and also ”just look at that” kind of post. The thing that should be looked at is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslatingUbuntu/JauntyTranslationIssues Virtually all I18N issues that were a) never fixed in eg. intrepid (or earlier) b) found out as new (having

Regression in getting fully translated Ubuntu installation - what to do for karmic?

2009-09-22 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, CC:ing ubuntu-translators just to get interested people on-board, no need to continue CC:ing. Please look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/language-selector/+bug/434173 - do you think I'm missing something, can the report be refined? The new way of handling supporting translations, writing aids

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board meeting, 2009-09-22

2009-09-23 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/9/22 Jordan Mantha laserj...@ubuntu.com:   * Based on feedback all around, it was agreed that it is still early     for sun-java6 to be dropped.  However, it was not yet clear if     responsibility for the package should be changed.   * ACTION: kees to drive sun-java6 email thread and get

Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, a) Is anyone aware of some earlier discussions on the topic wrt Ubuntu and b) Would everyone agree that it would make a lot of sense? 3G broadband usage is incredibly popular nowadays at least around here, and usb-modeswitch is a must have for a majority (?) of new 3G modems these days. It's

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-13 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/9 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: If I read those correctly, they work neither with or without usb-modeswitch, hence adding it would not decrease any usability? I poked around on IRC and summarized with my non-existent journalistic skills the situation in my blog: http

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/13 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: I think the main interesting thing would be that what are the usb-modeswitch developers' motivations and could they with some help from the kernel guys be directed to contribute more to the kernel. In addition to previous concerns in this thread

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/24 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: I fully agree with you Scott, however I am not sure which one of us should start discussion there. Would be nice for you Ubuntu guys to start pushing this idea, because you have some backing. Anyway, I'm subscribing to that list and if no one will

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/25 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: By the way, reading all materials, I just thought - usb-modeswitch now has nice udev wrapper - why not ship it by default? Why it isn't in main? Is there any objections to this? Patents, legal issues (I can't think of any, but still)? I think this

String break in ubuntone-client without freeze exception

2010-03-11 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi Rodney, You recently uploaded a new version of ubuntuone-client source package. Please note that Ubuntu has been in UserInterfaceFreeze since March 4th, requiring freeze exception including a bug report and a note to relevant mailing lists. See more information at

Re: String break in ubuntone-client without freeze exception

2010-03-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/15 Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com: which there are translations, and doesn't really explain which strings you feel broke this freeze. Can you list them please, so we can determine which ones exactly you think broke the freeze? I'll leave you in the capable hands of Elliot if

Re: Booting and login - why are users not logged in automatically?

2010-03-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/24 Evan eapa...@gmail.com: For security we definitely want users to enter their passwords by default. However, given this default you raise a good point that ureadahead should be optimized for this option, not for auto-login. Note though that Ubuntu Netbook defaults to auto-login, and

Re: Proposal to delay release of Precise Pangolin

2011-10-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/10/19 Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com: The 12.04.1 (the first of the dot releases) is scheduled for 23 August 2012, which is about 4 months after the 12.04 release (26 April 2012).  The dot release is, in fact, a bug-fix and hardware-enablement only release cycle.  Realistically, some

Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/2/7 Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com: So what should we, the Debian and Ubuntu MySQL maintainers and users, do about this? This is really more for the heavy users to answer, but I haven't seen any indication that MariaDB wouldn't be an LTS worthy replacement. It has the majority of former

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-14 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/12 Ken VanDine ken.vand...@canonical.com: For those that haven't tried the latest version, I really suggest getting 3.3.91 and taking that for a spin.  Most of the effort we've put into it recently have been quality, so no stunning changes but more reliability.  Duplicate detection and

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/14 Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com: Can you please clarify what you mean by laggy here? And are there bugs open for what you mean by your use of the term? The smooth scroll bug covers it mostly, but some specifics might use separate bug reports. At least the following come to

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-13 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/4/11 Dane Mutters dmutt...@gmail.com: There's somewhat more to it than that.  The major issue (among many other issues) is that the new GUIs don't do the things that used to be available on the old one (Gnome 2).  Example: I can't add a good system monitor to Gnome 3 because the old

Re: [Idea] PhoneGap support for Ubuntu

2012-11-05 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/11/6 Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com: This is inspired by the following post: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-November/msg6.html Since Ubuntu is heading towards Tablets and mobile phones now. It would be very nice if we also join the PhoneGap camp. This

Re: [Idea] PhoneGap support for Ubuntu

2012-11-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/11/6 James Haigh james.r.ha...@gmail.com: What? Could you please provide a link? http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1195 - look at the core of Ubuntu and review it through a mobile lens. I think PhoneGap would fit in the core by being essentially also a sort of build/packaging tool,

Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...

2013-02-28 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2013/2/22 Scott Ritchie scottritc...@ubuntu.com: I've been absolutely flooded with informal reports over a period of several months now of 12.10 being still broken with regards to proprietary drivers. Reports like this are typical, especially after the influx of steam users: Installed ubuntu

Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...

2013-02-28 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2013/2/22 Scott Ritchie scottritc...@ubuntu.com: I'm not sure what the underlying fix should be, but it is making me question if there's some sort of larger process issue here because we've managed to drop this on the floor for so long. A good question. It might be that the proprietary drivers

Re: Side-by-side installation of Qt5 and Qt4

2013-05-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Yes, Qt4 and Qt5 are fully co-installable in Ubuntu 13.04 (and 12.04 LTS + 12.10 with the help of the PPA). You should install either qt4-default or qt5-default package to select which tools are given you by default, ie. when you type eg. qmake without any parameters. You can then switch

Re: qt5ct for Wily

2015-09-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2015-09-20 12:24 GMT+03:00 Ralf Mardorf : > does somebody know a link that introduces how to build qt5 applications > for Wily? The closest might be http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html > [weremouse@moonstudio qt5ct-0.17]$ qtchooser -qt=5

Re: Xenial startup disk creator and custom ISO

2016-05-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
isofs to genisofs [1]. -Timo [1] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-fi-remix/main/revision/31 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss