Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Owens
Hi Markus, Do they need to install -0ubuntu2 and THEN -0ubuntu3? I don't know how Fedora does, but you always have the fallback option to download the full package. The server always has to provide full packages to allow new installations. It would be logical for a from-version

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-02 Thread Sam Tygier
Mackenzie Morgan wrote: I would like to know how they handle situations where the person hasn't updated in 3 weeks and the package has been updated in the meantime. Say, for example: -0ubuntu1 is currently installed -0ubuntu3 is available to install Do they need to install -0ubuntu2 and

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Sayers
If you just want to disable certain large packages, could you do some sort of pinning arrangement on them? You should be able to configure apt so that it (for example) prefers an older version of OOo to an updated one, but likes a security fix better still. See

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-02 Thread Markus Hitter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 01.02.2009 um 21:43 schrieb Mackenzie Morgan: I would like to know how they handle situations where the person hasn't updated in 3 weeks and the package has been updated in the meantime. Say, for example: -0ubuntu1 is currently installed

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-01 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 31.01.2009 um 15:09 schrieb Davyd McColl: I don't appreciate a 78mb download every other day because one config item in the kernel config has been changed or tweaked. I think what you are really asking for are incremental packages. Additional to full packages, each server would supply a

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-01 Thread nergar
Isn't Fedora working on something like this right now?? Only downloading the pieces that were updated? If yes, It would help to look at what they are doing. Markus Hitter wrote: Am 31.01.2009 um 15:09 schrieb Davyd McColl: I don't appreciate a 78mb download every other day because one

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-01 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 13:38 -0600, nergar wrote: Isn't Fedora working on something like this right now?? Only downloading the pieces that were updated? If yes, It would help to look at what they are doing. I would like to know how they handle situations where the person hasn't updated in 3

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-01 Thread Remco
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to know how they handle situations where the person hasn't updated in 3 weeks and the package has been updated in the meantime. Dunno if they do it like this, but I could imagine a system where the updates

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-01 Thread Davyd McColl
On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:16:25 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: If you want to avoid those sorts of updates and only get the security ones, you can disable the updates repository and just use security. That'd result in quite a lot of the updates being eliminated. There are also changelogs

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-01-31 Thread Evan
It sounds like a good idea, but I don't know how feasible it would be. I know at one point there was also work going on with debdiffs, but I haven't heard anything on that in a long time. At the very least, this is definitely an area that needs to be looked at, maybe at the Jaunty+1 UDS? Evan --

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-01-31 Thread Evan
Another possibility that I just recalled was that of using lzma compression instead of gzip for the packages. Again, it was discussed a while ago and I haven't heard anything since. Did anything ever come of that? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-01-31 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Saturday 31 January 2009 09:09:04 Davyd McColl wrote: Here it is: whilst I totally appreciate all the hard work that goes into patching and maintaining the current release version of large packages (like the kernel, openoffice.org, or even just warsow, which has a large data component), I