Re: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala

2003-02-26 Thread jonah kasangwawo






Why not ? Does everybody own a house in Uganda ?


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Why would you go to Uganda and sleep in a hotel?
Em




Typical of the so-called communications gang. The man complains about
 the  services he got (or did not get) at a hotel, but the gang takes us
 on a  journey about something else !
 Look, Mulindwa, one can get problems with hotel services anywhere in the
  world - in Europe, America, Asia or Toronto.

 Kasangwawo


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Subject: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:44:09 -0500

Fellow Ugandan

By the tone of your posting, it sends waves that you were touched by
 the  tough hand of the erosion of moral and morale that our nation have
 been  stuck into for the last 20 years. But I can as well conclude that
 your life  had the mercy to get out since you can talk about it. Many
 Ugandans have  not been so lucky. So we must thank God for that.
Now we must take this concern one step further, our nation can not be
 healed by eliminating bad hotels, for what you saw is not a problem of
 a  hotel, it is not a problem of a soldier, it is a problem of a whole
 nation  which is heading for a total anarchy. So instead of playing the
 elimination  game, let us work towards changes in our nation. We must
 stop this freight  train as it continues to go faster and faster to the
 total destruction of  the nation. Today you have seen a hotel, another
 one saw a worst taxi  driver who robbed him, another one's parent was
 operated on when Doctors  were using torches for light, yet the other
 one died for the electricity  through rationing was cut off when his
 tummy was still open.

All those are true results of a nation with out a government. we all as
  Ugandans must start to think and hard and together if we are to save
 our  nation. Uganda was supposed to be a pearl of Africa until when The
 Movement  got its dirty hands on it. That is what we must reverse.

Thank God you left Uganda alive.
Em
  The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni Uganda is in Anarchy
  Le groupe de transmission de Mulindwas
 avec Yoweri Museveni, Ouganda est dans anarchy 


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   Guys wishing to stay in a hotel in Kampala, you may need to get
 second
opinions about hotel Africana. They offer false promises and their
 services  are horrible.

   I was just pissed!


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Re: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala

2003-02-26 Thread andama
Ed,
The main reason people stay in hotels is because the neighbors and relatives 
who havent seen them for years come late at night armed and demanding for the 
elusive dollar or pound.

--
Nixon
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 Why not ? Does everybody own a house in Uganda ?
 
 
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 Why would you go to Uganda and sleep in a hotel?
 Em
 
 
 
 
 
 Typical of the so-called communications gang. The man complains about
   the  services he got (or did not get) at a hotel, but the gang takes us
   on a  journey about something else !
   Look, Mulindwa, one can get problems with hotel services anywhere in the
world - in Europe, America, Asia or Toronto.
  
   Kasangwawo
  
  
  From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala
  Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:44:09 -0500
  
  Fellow Ugandan
  
  By the tone of your posting, it sends waves that you were touched by
   the  tough hand of the erosion of moral and morale that our nation have
   been  stuck into for the last 20 years. But I can as well conclude that
   your life  had the mercy to get out since you can talk about it. Many
   Ugandans have  not been so lucky. So we must thank God for that.
  Now we must take this concern one step further, our nation can not be
   healed by eliminating bad hotels, for what you saw is not a problem of
   a  hotel, it is not a problem of a soldier, it is a problem of a whole
   nation  which is heading for a total anarchy. So instead of playing the
   elimination  game, let us work towards changes in our nation. We must
   stop this freight  train as it continues to go faster and faster to the
   total destruction of  the nation. Today you have seen a hotel, another
   one saw a worst taxi  driver who robbed him, another one's parent was
   operated on when Doctors  were using torches for light, yet the other
   one died for the electricity  through rationing was cut off when his
   tummy was still open.
  
  All those are true results of a nation with out a government. we all as
Ugandans must start to think and hard and together if we are to save
   our  nation. Uganda was supposed to be a pearl of Africa until when The
   Movement  got its dirty hands on it. That is what we must reverse.
  
  Thank God you left Uganda alive.
  Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group
  With Yoweri Museveni Uganda is in Anarchy
Le groupe de transmission de Mulindwas
   avec Yoweri Museveni, Ouganda est dans anarchy 
  
  
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 Subject: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala
  
  
 Guys wishing to stay in a hotel in Kampala, you may need to get
   second
  opinions about hotel Africana. They offer false promises and their
   services  are horrible.
  
 I was just pissed!
  
  
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Re: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala

2003-02-25 Thread mulindwa
Why would you go to Uganda and sleep in a hotel?
Em





Typical of the so-called communications gang. The man complains about
 the  services he got (or did not get) at a hotel, but the gang takes us
 on a  journey about something else !
 Look, Mulindwa, one can get problems with hotel services anywhere in the
  world - in Europe, America, Asia or Toronto.

 Kasangwawo


From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:44:09 -0500

Fellow Ugandan

By the tone of your posting, it sends waves that you were touched by
 the  tough hand of the erosion of moral and morale that our nation have
 been  stuck into for the last 20 years. But I can as well conclude that
 your life  had the mercy to get out since you can talk about it. Many
 Ugandans have  not been so lucky. So we must thank God for that.
Now we must take this concern one step further, our nation can not be
 healed by eliminating bad hotels, for what you saw is not a problem of
 a  hotel, it is not a problem of a soldier, it is a problem of a whole
 nation  which is heading for a total anarchy. So instead of playing the
 elimination  game, let us work towards changes in our nation. We must
 stop this freight  train as it continues to go faster and faster to the
 total destruction of  the nation. Today you have seen a hotel, another
 one saw a worst taxi  driver who robbed him, another one's parent was
 operated on when Doctors  were using torches for light, yet the other
 one died for the electricity  through rationing was cut off when his
 tummy was still open.

All those are true results of a nation with out a government. we all as
  Ugandans must start to think and hard and together if we are to save
 our  nation. Uganda was supposed to be a pearl of Africa until when The
 Movement  got its dirty hands on it. That is what we must reverse.

Thank God you left Uganda alive.
Em
  The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni Uganda is in Anarchy
  Le groupe de transmission de Mulindwas
 avec Yoweri Museveni, Ouganda est dans anarchy 


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   Subject: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala


   Guys wishing to stay in a hotel in Kampala, you may need to get
 second
opinions about hotel Africana. They offer false promises and their
 services  are horrible.

   I was just pissed!


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Re: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala

2003-02-24 Thread Kiggundu Mukasa




Utter rubbish. 
There are problems here but that is utter bullshit. In the past 14 months not only have I lost one of my parents (thus necessitating a trip by my siblings home), I know three other people who lost parents (blood pressure, car accident and AIDS). People fly in and out frequently and have no problems in the villages or towns of Buganda. I last went to Arua last year in July for a wedding and it was a blast. We partied until 4.00am for four days straight! 

I was in Amocal (or is it amochal) in Apac last year to deliver cows for a friend who had kwanjulas there a while back and still had not paid up. It was fine.

I go to Lira at least once in two months to work on a clients computers and the same with Mbale. I do not do gulu or kitgum. I was alst in Kitgum three eyars ago and had to fly there (the road was too risky). Once in the town it was ok but not after midnight. So I cannot give an eye witness account of Gulu or Kotido. 

The best way to Arua is via Masindi and the park then use the ferry at parra and the to pakwach. The long road via karuma is ok some days and some days bad.

The crime situation in Uganda in general (not counting the rebels) is about 10 times better than Kenya. LCs shooting people is just scare-mongering. 

The most they do is come by once a month and ask you for security fees (they are supposed to partol the council at night. I have never seen them do it, but I give them the benefit of the doubt. The fee is 500/= to 1,000/= depending on how rich you look. It is probably a con in my village, but since you can negotiate and 500/= can buy a bottle of Coke or Fanta, then what the hell, I pay.

I pay the villagers who fix the roads (which are done probably once per annum by KCC) in my area more. They do it on their own inittiative and I think it is a great service, they collect from every car owner (visiting or resident).

I live here and the local Internet community in Uganda is quite large so there are many people who can corroborate this.

Mulindwa says With Yoweri Museveni Uganda is in Anarchy and only posts negative news. Although he uses posts from the new vision often, he only picks the negative ones, never one positive one. Not one

So he is out to paint a picture of hell on earth. Its not paradise by a long shot, and the articles he picks on are true, but judging from the fact that the articles print all good and bad (that is why Mulindwa has access to the bad stories in the press as is not in a Zimbabwe like situation where there is no press from within to speak of), the papers would be screaming about the LCs killing people!

Its not heaven, but its home and in the south it is relatively safe. The clubs open all night long in all the suburbs of all the towns in the south (mbale, jinja, kampala, Ebb, masaka etc.).

In the Acholi region of the north it is not good at all. I wish there was a quick fix. I once asked Mulindwa why Kony goes freely in Acholi and not in Arua or Karamoja and he did not answer. 

I shall sign off here and let him launch his weapons of mass destruction.

Kiggundu



On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 12:55, Mulindwa Edward wrote:

Lisa
Now I have the proof that you do not read what I post in the forums, for if you were reading what I post you would know that Uganda changed to a Movement way. You remember I posted already that when you go to Uganda you never go home for you will be killed by the RCs? A claim that was seriously denied by Mwaami Matovu Lutiimba? Well I happened not to lie. Lisa, let me fill you in again. If you have an emergency to go to Uganda (Which these days is the only reason you have to) Never ever go home in your parent's house. RCs are going to come in at night, they will steal all the dollars you came with including the clothes and gifts for people and in the end they will kill you and the entire family you have come to visit. And look here, we now have a case where a Ugandan from here is in Uganda but the relatives begged him not to stayin the village, he is still stuck ina Mukono Hotel and the relatives come to see him every day. 

Lisa this is not a problem for you are a Northerner it is a problem especially in Buganda and all over the nation. The times of Ffe Kasita Twebaka have passed and long. What is interesting to some of us is that we stated these things way back and we were called all names, Matovu called me a liar, Kasangwawo called me a UPC operative, Abayombo called a Valet. But you see when facts are facts they stay facts, last few days it was Mwaami Ssenyange today it is this Muganda who is even scared to make his name public irrespective of the torture he has gone through in his country, and we live on.

We have spent our days complaining about UPC Wingers, UPC government, and president Obote, yet the Rwandeese are turning our nation up side down. Thanks the cheap thinkers like Lutimba Matovu. What I would love today, is people like Kasangwao to fight all these information's from 

RE: ugnet_: Never Stay at Hotel Africana Kampala

2003-02-24 Thread Ed Kironde










Swmm of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Would you please supply more information so
that your problem can be corrected?
Such feed backs are very important when it comes to business. I took it upon myself, to forward that
E-mail to the hotel and if you have a complaint, you can as well contact the
management and I am sure they will try to address what you call .. False
promises, horrible services  I am sure the management would be
glad to address your concerns. 

The reason I encourage you to contact the
hotel is simply because I have known the owner for such a long time and very approachable
gentleman. 

The hotel e-mail is here under:



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Guys wishing to stay in a hotel in Kampala, you may
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