Re: Thank's your for helpme!

2000-12-20 Thread N.R.Liwal
Dear Alimjan; In order to support Uighur on VB in Arabic Script you need Arabic Enabled Microsft Widnows 98 and an OpenType Font that support Uighur, but with certin limitations. If you are interseted to Support Uighur on Arabic Windows 98 please contact off the list. N.R.Liwal [EMAIL

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2000-12-20 Thread alimjan
Thank's your . michka

[langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Alain LaBonté 
Is English the best marketing and communication tool? According to the latest figures supplied by GlobalReach (see http://www.glreach.com/globstats/index.php3), during the year 2000, English content of all Internet messages worldwide (web queries and mail) dropped below 50%. It is clear that, as

Non-Latin Vietnamese

2000-12-20 Thread tom
Can anyone tell me if the non-Latin Vietnamese scripts (I believe they are called chu han and chu nom) are somewhere in Unicode 3? I could not find them in a quick look through the excellent "roadmap." Many thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Michael Everson
Ar 06:56 -0800 2000-12-20, scríobh Alain LaBonté : Is English the best marketing and communication tool? But I suspect he didn't write it. It looks very much like the kind of thing an enthusiastic second-year university student would write as a term paper. Yet, it is surprising to find out that

bidi or multi algorithm?

2000-12-20 Thread Elaine Keown
Hello, Is Unicode's so-called "bidi algorithm" really bidirectional, that is, does it govern horizontal text layout in right-to-left and left-to-right languages? Or is "bidi" a metaphor here, for more possible text orientations, including vertical boustrophedons and other historically

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Rick McGowan
Everson opined: But I suspect he didn't write it. It looks very much like the kind of thing an enthusiastic second-year university student would write as a term paper. If Alain wrote that diatribe, he should have said so to avoid any such questions. Otherwise, it should not have been

Re: bidi or multi algorithm?

2000-12-20 Thread Rick McGowan
Elaine... Quick reply, sorry. I should be more verbose, but I hope others can chime in. Is Unicode's so-called "bidi algorithm" really bidirectional, that is, does it govern horizontal text layout in right-to-left and left-to- right languages? Yes. Or is "bidi" a metaphor here, for

Re: bidi or multi algorithm?

2000-12-20 Thread John Jenkins
On Wednesday, December 20, 2000, at 10:15 AM, Elaine Keown wrote: Is Unicode's so-called "bidi algorithm" really bidirectional, that is, does it govern horizontal text layout in right-to-left and left-to-right languages? Yes. Or is "bidi" a metaphor here, for more possible text

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Tex Texin
Alain, ok, but why is this pertinent to this list and what is it you are asking Unicode to do or stop doing? tex "Alain LaBonté " wrote: À 11:13 2000-12-20 -0500, John Cowan a écrit: Alain LaBonté [in fact, not me] wrote: [author unknown] Is English the best marketing and communication

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Alain LaBonté 
À 15:26 2000-12-20 -0500, Tex Texin a écrit: Alain, ok, but why is this pertinent to this list and what is it you are asking Unicode to do or stop doing? I answered this at 15:12 but you probably did not see it yet. Alain

boustrophedon more current, not ancient?

2000-12-20 Thread Elaine Keown
Hello, I studied Chinese in "horizontal, left to right mode" in Boston, but my impression is that Chinese and Japanese newspapers are still mostly written in a vertical, frequently right-to-left, boustrophedon. I know nothing whatsoever about Korean. But, of course, I am not using the

Re: boustrophedon more current, not ancient?

2000-12-20 Thread Rick McGowan
Elain wrote: Chinese and Japanese newspapers are still mostly written in a vertical, frequently right-to-left, boustrophedon. No, not exactly. They don't go "as the ox plows", and it is entirely improper to utilize the term "boustrophedon" to refer to them. They are written in columns,

Re: boustrophedon more current, not ancient?

2000-12-20 Thread Peter_Constable
On 12/20/2000 02:26:24 PM Elaine Keown wrote: Literally 'boustrophedon' refers to how an ox plows a field. And I think that has always been understood in the context of writing to mean with successive lines running in alternate directions (regardless of the direction in which lines follow one

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Alain LaBonté 
À 10:29 2000-12-20 -0800, Rick McGowan a écrit: In any case, I would have been happier had Alain provided an introduction to say why on earth he posted it to the Unicode list. [Alain] Because Unicoders should be happy about it when it speaks about DNS internationalization and the like.

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Alain LaBonté 
À 13:07 2000-12-20 -0800, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan a écrit: I have not seen a posting from you that would answer Tex's questions. The entire post was inflammatory, and given the fact that you do apparently associate it with your own feelings vis-a-vis French/English in Quebec it even becomes to

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Rick McGowan
The question that I keep asking is who wrote this missive, and if Alain didn't write it, where did he get it? That's the most basic question I had. Rick

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Actually, Alain, there are numerous ways in which such a wonderful point could be made without offending people. I am certain you could think of dozens of ways that someone might offend you with a particular approach for what might otherwise be a good a point. Perhaps the next time you could

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread P. T. Rourke
Forgive me for responding in English; I would be afraid to try out my impoverished (and never rich) French after so many years of neglect. There are figures (not necessarily reliable figures) for English use and knowledge in David Crystal, *English as a Global Language.* From what I remember,

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Mark Leisher
You know, here in America, the silly season usually starts some time in summer. When the air conditioners break down. Sarasvati, are your fans moving enough CFM? - Mark Leisher Computing Research LabCinema,

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Sarasvati
Mark Leisher kindly inquired: Sarasvati, are your fans moving enough CFM? It's been so cold in California of late that I had Dave disconnect my fans last night in a vain attempt to warm my freezing diodes. Obviously a rash move. Dave, please reconnect my faa... Daisy iz az Daisy

expansion of bidi planned?

2000-12-20 Thread Elaine Keown
Hello, Thanks to Kim Peck (and Michael Everson!) for the lovely text orientations example. So now the obvious question: does Unicode have a formal plan to expand the bidi algorithm to cover more text orientation options? Is it extraordinarily difficult to do this, at the level of a

Re: expansion of bidi planned?

2000-12-20 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Elain Keown asked: Thanks to Kim Peck (and Michael Everson!) for the lovely text orientations example. So now the obvious question: does Unicode have a formal plan to expand the bidi algorithm to cover more text orientation options? No. You need to understand what the bidirectional

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread dvdeug
At Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:08:52 -0800 (GMT-0800), Alain LaBonté  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Alain] I had no intent of asking anything, but since you provoke me, I found something with which I wholeheartedly agree: International forums and discussion groups should welcome contributions in all

Free Unicode Proceedings

2000-12-20 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
Unicode has some extra copies of Unicode conference proceedings that can be picked up for free at the Unicode office in Mountain View, CA. The proceedings will be given away on a first come first serve basis. Shipping can be arranged at requester's expense. AVAILABLE ARE: - Fifteenth Int'l

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Tex Texin
Is the suggestion of multilingual forums really that different than having off-topic threads in a forum? The threads/languages just become self-selecting groups. My only concern would be that subjects would be in a different language from the body and it would be hard to know which messages to

Re: [langue-fr] L'anglais est-il une langue universelle ?

2000-12-20 Thread Doug Ewell
Alain LaBonté  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: À 10:29 2000-12-20 -0800, Rick McGowan a écrit: In any case, I would have been happier had Alain provided an introduction to say why on earth he posted it to the Unicode list. [Alain] Because Unicoders should be happy about it when it speaks about