A Europe of fonts

2001-05-25 Thread Sorin Paliga
In fact, a fully Pan-European font should cover not only the Roman (including Roman extended), Greek, Cyrillic and Armenian, but also Georgian, Turkic Latin and Turkic Cyrillic. If we refer to only modern and contemporary languages and scripts. Historically, we should also add Glagolitic and

RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email

2001-05-25 Thread てんどう瘢雹りゅう瘢雹じ
★じゅういっちゃん★ Encoding-aware program that "understand" Unicode, should treat U+FEFF according to its literal meaning: "a non-breaking space having zero width". I take it that U+FEFF is the Cheshire Cat's favorite character. What about that CLOSED OPEN E, also? I got quite a

multilingual web site: Oracle8.06 and Cold Fusion 4.5/5

2001-05-25 Thread Sneid
Hi Everybody, Has anyone tried to set up a multilingual web site with Oracle and ColdFusion? Your helpwill be most welcomed. Thank you very much for responding. Well, here are some questions to start with: Which datatypeshave you chosen to store your theJapanese Characters andthe

RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email

2001-05-25 Thread Bill Kurmey
Are there not 2 versions of UTF-8, the Unicode Standard (maximum of 4 octets) and the ISO/IEC Annex/Amendment to 10646 (maximum of 6 octets)? Is Unicode UTF-8 diverging from ISO by the way in which a scalar value is encoded in UTF-8? Should folks be concerned that the IETF RFC-2279 and RFC-2781

Genesis v. UDHR?

2001-05-25 Thread Michael Everson
Not wanting to fuel any fires, but in case no one had pointed it out, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is available in 300 languages. http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/navigate/alpha.htm. There is info about special characters and mention of Unicode:

Re: A Europe of fonts

2001-05-25 Thread John Cowan
Sorin Paliga scripsit: In fact, a fully Pan-European font should cover not only the Roman (including Roman extended), Greek, Cyrillic and Armenian, but also Georgian, Turkic Latin and Turkic Cyrillic. If we refer to only modern and contemporary languages and scripts. Don't forget the

Re: A Europe of fonts

2001-05-25 Thread てんどう瘢雹りゅう瘢雹じ
I thought that Yiddish was a language without a home. ★じゅういっちゃん★ --- Original Message --- 差出人: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 宛先: Sorin Paliga [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 日時: 01/05/25 10:42 件名: Re: A Europe of

RE: A Europe of fonts

2001-05-25 Thread Michael Everson
At 11:47 +0200 2001-05-25, Marco Cimarosti wrote Georgian or Glagolitic are extraneous to this typographical tradition, and ancient scripts are of course extraneous to typography herself. Not so. Scholars need to present them in print and many ancient scripts do have some tradition of

Single Unicode Font

2001-05-25 Thread Sorin Paliga
you are right about metafonts and the possible alternatives, including the different behavior of various scripts. it is imperious to have a clear mind where we wish to get, and then solutions are found, sooner or later. -- Sorin Paliga [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Metafont [was Re: Single Unicode Font]

2001-05-25 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
BTW, it seems that Metafont is a trademark of Addison Wesley publishing company ... --roozbeh On Fri, 25 May 2001, Sorin Paliga wrote: you are right about metafonts and the possible alternatives, including the different behavior of various scripts. it is imperious to have a clear mind

Re: A Europe of fonts

2001-05-25 Thread Jeff Guevin
At 22:45 +0300 2001-05-24, Sorin Paliga wrote: In fact, a fully Pan-European font should cover not only the Roman (including Roman extended), Greek, Cyrillic and Armenian, but also Georgian, Turkic Latin and Turkic Cyrillic. If we refer to only modern and contemporary languages and scripts.

ISO vs Unicode UTF-8 (was RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email)

2001-05-25 Thread Peter_Constable
On 05/25/2001 02:13:36 AM Bill Kurmey wrote: Are there not 2 versions of UTF-8, the Unicode Standard (maximum of 4 octets) and the ISO/IEC Annex/Amendment to 10646 (maximum of 6 octets)? The distinction between the Unicode and ISO versions of UTF-8 is pretty irrelevant. ISO UTF-8 allows a

RE: multilingual web site: Oracle8.06 and Cold Fusion 4.5/5

2001-05-25 Thread Carl W. Brown
Sneid, Oracle 8.06 needs the 8.0.6.1.0 ODBC driver if you want to use ODBC. This must be downloaded. The data base must be built as a UTF-8 data base. You can retrieve data in code page but the DB must be built to store data in UTF-8.Field sizes must be reviewed. If you use UTF-8 CLOB data

Re: supplementary planes support

2001-05-25 Thread Thomas Chan
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Markus Scherer wrote: Thomas Chan wrote: than Italian's 37 million (http://www.sil.org/ethnologue/top100.html). Italy has about 60 million people. Do you not count at least most of them as speakers of Italian, plus some in Switzerland etc.? I'm just quoting the SIL

RE: ISO vs Unicode UTF-8 (was RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email)

2001-05-25 Thread Carl W. Brown
Peter, There was another abomination proposed. Oracle rather than adding UTF-16 support proposed that non plane 0 characters be encoded to an from UTF-8 by encoding each of the surrogate pairs into a separate UTF-8 character. This way they could encode UTF-16 using the UCS-2 encoding into two

RE: supplementary planes support

2001-05-25 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Markus Scherer wrote: than Italian's 37 million (http://www.sil.org/ethnologue/top100.html). Italy has about 60 million people. Do you not count at least most of them as speakers of Italian, plus some in Switzerland etc.? Sht! Don't you wake old flames! That's The Ethnologue's

RE: Genesis v. UDHR?

2001-05-25 Thread Ayers, Mike
From: Herman Ranes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Unfortunately, there are some errors in the UNHCRC 300 language collection. Also not wanting to fan any fires, I wish to point out why I believe the text from Genesis was chosen - most Bible translations (as far as I know) are worked on

RE: Genesis v. UDHR?

2001-05-25 Thread Tom Emerson
Ayers, Mike writes: [snip] However, I also think that the Tower of Babel story would have been a better choice. Yes, well, until Unicode faces the wrath of its progenitor and is split asunder into a myriad of sundry different and mutually unintelligible encodings... ... climbing back in my

RE: ISO vs Unicode UTF-8 (was RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email)

2001-05-25 Thread Carl W. Brown
Peter, It was about as popular as base 3 computer logic. Base 3 logic was supposed to have 0, +, and - states. Tri-stated or-ing was a much cheaper alternative with binary logic (copper wire tying the gates together) and there was no way to get core memory to work with it. If it had worked we

Re: ISO vs Unicode UTF-8 (was RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email)

2001-05-25 Thread Rick McGowan
Some people said things like... There was another abomination proposed. I was choosing not to mention the abominable. The abominable steam-rollers of history squish those who don't scream and run; and the few weak survivors are forever cleaning up the resulting messes. If you think