Re: Need a quick font? make your own!

2002-03-01 Thread Evan Martin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 10:34:04AM -0800, Barry Caplan wrote: This is pretty interesting. Is it art, is it a toy? Make your own TT fonts created by a genetic algorithm! http://alphabet.tmema.org/ See also: http://www.theory.org/artprojects/alphabetsoup/ which generates new letters based on

Re: Theban alphabet?

2002-03-01 Thread Philipp Reichmuth
CC The word pentacle doesn't have the power of the pentacle glyph, and yet I CC don't see that in Unicode. (I won't accept that it is a glyph variant of CC U+2606.) humor How about a glyph variant of U+2721? ;-) /humor Philippmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Michael Everson wrote: I would be glad to learn any information about what is really occuring in practice in each of the euro-using countries with regards to formatting the currency. So would I, so I can update my page at http://www.evertype.com/standards/euro/formats.html Currently

RE: ISO 3166 (country codes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move

2002-03-01 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Asmus Freytag wrote: There's a difference between house numbers and street addresses. House numbers, which number every house in a city or village starting at 1 are the older system and I have been in places where these house numbers have been maintained (although perhaps no longer

Well off-topic, Was: ISO 3166 (country codes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move

2002-03-01 Thread John Hudson
At 02:32 3/1/2002, Marco Cimarosti wrote: You have probably been in Venice... On each island in the town, houses are numbered starting from 1. That's why the house number in a Venetian addresses is often 4 digits, and why there is no reference to the usual Italian words for road, square, etc.

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Otto Stolz
Michael Everson had written: When is [the Apocalypse] scheduled to occur? Tex Texin wrote: And how do you write it in ISO 8601 format? It is out of scope for ISO 8601; you will have to resort to RFC 2550, cf http://wwwfaqsorg/rfcs/rfc2550html or http://rfcsunsitedk/rfc/rfc2550html Best

Re: Theban alphabet?

2002-03-01 Thread Otto Stolz
Curtis Clark had written: The word pentacle doesn't have the power of the pentacle glyph, and yet I don't see that in Unicode (I won't accept that it is a glyph variant of U+2606) Philipp Reichmuth wrote: humor How about a glyph variant of U+2721? ;-) No, it must be U+209B, of course

[OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works (was: Standard Conventionsand euro)

2002-03-01 Thread Otto Stolz
Marco Cimarosti wrote: On my experience, however, the current practice of having one monetary settings record for each locale is completely broken This practice assumes that, eg, Italians only need amounts in liras or euros At home, where I use MS Works (451 IIRC) and Windows 95 (with Y2K

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread John Wilcock
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:26:42 +0100 , Marco Cimarosti wrote: French francs amounts were often written with a single decimal (because the smallest coin was 10 cents) No, the 5 centime coin remained in use (until the recent demise of the Franc, of course) and in any case it was very rare to see

[OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (country codes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))

2002-03-01 Thread Marco Cimarosti
John Cowan wrote: [...] House numbers in North America (and in France also, it seems) have a few bits of meaning: the least-significant (numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on, [...] It is the same in Italy. I was quite surprised to know that also in other countries

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread James E. Agenbroad
Friday, March 1, 2002 Would I be correct in assuming that the Euro is also now the currency in non-European dependencies such as the Netherlands Antilles, French Polynesia, etc.? Apologies in advance if either of these is now independent.

Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (country c odes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))

2002-03-01 Thread Patrick Andries
Marco Cimarosti wrote: 27E7FB58F42CD5119C0D0002557C0CCA16B4C8@XCHANGE"> John Cowan wrote: [...] House numbers in North America (and in Francealso, it seems) have a few bits of meaning: the least-significant(numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on,[...]

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Everson
At 08:55 -0500 2002-03-01, James E. Agenbroad wrote: Friday, March 1, 2002 Would I be correct in assuming that the Euro is also now the currency in non-European dependencies such as the Netherlands Antilles, French Polynesia, etc.? Apologies in

Che cos'è Unicode?

2002-03-01 Thread Marco Cimarosti
What's Unicode? Yesterday night I couldn't sleep, so I read a few hundreds postings on Italian Usenet containing the word UNICODE, seeking the answer to this question. Italian users say that Unicode is: 1) A system to show the euro symbol in e-mails; 2) A better system than UTF-8 to

RE: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works (was: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-01 Thread Lars Kristan
Otto Stolz wrote: At home, where I use MS Works (451 IIRC) and Windows 95 (with Y2K and Euro patches) the new year brought a bad surprise (or should I say: revealed a severe design error in MS Works?): When I changed, in the Windows system locale, the monetary setting to Euros, all

Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers

2002-03-01 Thread Otto Stolz
John Cowan had written: [] House numbers[]: the least-significant (numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on, Same here (southern Germany) Odd numbers on the left, even numbers on the right hand, when you look up the street (from small to larger numbers) Marco

Re: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works (was: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-01 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
The thing MS Works did not do is something that MS Access *did* do, starting with Access 2.0. They store the information about the locale settings along with the decision to make something a currency field, so that if the locale changes the monetary value stays the same. It was more work, but it

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Doug Ewell
Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my experience, however, the current practice of having one monetary settings record for each locale is completely broken. This practice assumes that, e.g., Italians only need amounts in liras or euros. But it is clear that foreign currencies are

Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (countryc odes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))

2002-03-01 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Patrick Andries wrote: Marco Cimarosti wrote: John Cowan wrote: [...] House numbers in North America (and in France also, it seems) have a few bits of meaning: the least-significant (numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on, [...] It

searching and ZWJ / ZWNJ

2002-03-01 Thread Peter_Constable
I was asked this and wasn't entirely sure about the answer, or even sure if I knew of a doc in which it was discussed. (Note: this is being asked in relation to Devanagari.) quote 1. Are ZWJ and ZWNJ invisible in terms of searching, sorting, etc? In other words, the sequence consonant virama

RE: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works

2002-03-01 Thread Lars Kristan
Lars Kristan wrote: Of course if it was not that way and you would for some reason decide to use DEM instead of DM (or Lit instead of L), then you would complain about the design flaw because your old entries would not be updated then Otto Stolz wrote: Oh no, I was complaining that

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:49:27AM -0800, Doug Ewell wrote: Locale systems that force you to pick one immutable set of conventions for a given country are broken in general I remember having to tell MS-DOS that I was in South Africa or someplace, just to get my directory listing the way I

Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers

2002-03-01 Thread John Cowan
Otto Stolz wrote: Same here (southern Germany). Odd numbers on the left, even numbers on the right hand, when you look up the street (from small to larger numbers). (Going off the deep end today, be warned!) This rule does not hold here. In Manhattan, for example, streets run both east

Re: searching and ZWJ / ZWNJ

2002-03-01 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Peter, I was asked this and wasn't entirely sure about the answer, or even sure if I knew of a doc in which it was discussed (Note: this is being asked in relation to Devanagari) quote 1 Are ZWJ and ZWNJ invisible in terms of searching, sorting, etc? In other words, the sequence

RE: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Yves Arrouye
listing the way I wanted it. *nix systems that start with fr_FR and then allow you to define fr_FR-EURO or something really aren't much better; what if I want to deviate from the pre-defined locale in four or five ways instead of just one? They do not let you deviate from a pre-defined

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Jungshik Shin
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Doug Ewell wrote: Locale systems that force you to pick one immutable set of conventions for a given country are broken in general I remember having to tell MS-DOS that I was in South Africa or someplace, just to get my directory listing the way I wanted it *nix systems

Polish ASCII

2002-03-01 Thread Martin Kochanski
This question is, by definition, off-topic; but I'm asking it because the members of this list are just the sort of people who might know the answer and because this is something that could all too soon fade from the collective memory, as it has from mine Polish has a useful collection of

RE: Standard Conventions and euro

2002-03-01 Thread Yves Arrouye
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:26:42 +0100 , Marco Cimarosti wrote: French francs amounts were often written with a single decimal (because the smallest coin was 10 cents) No, the 5 centime coin remained in use (until the recent demise of the Franc, of course) and in any case it was very rare to

RE: Unicode page Web ring?

2002-03-01 Thread Yves Arrouye
My page is in Unicode, but does not mention Unicode except in the headers, and the headers are invisible unless you choose view source in your browser My company service has been in UTF-8 since I joined in 1998 See http://wwwrealnamescom/; Another good example, but it's much more recent: