Re: How to type sporadic Unicode (was: User interface for keyboard input)

2002-07-22 Thread Doug Ewell
Martin Kochanski unicode at cardbox dot net wrote: Microsoft's Alt+X method: unfortunately, there is no such thing. I have seen at least two different Alt+X methods in Microsoft software: I should have said one of Microsoft's Alt+X methods. Methods specified by ISO 14755: unfortunately,

Re: Unicode mention (Urdu)

2002-07-22 Thread Martin Kochanski
At 02:07 22/07/02 +0100, Alistair Vining wrote: The cross-platform message somewhat dulled by the font [Urdu Naskh Asiatype] download being a Windows .exe file with (judging by a message that popped up) a copy of the uniscribe .dll... If this is true, then are the BBC pirating Microsoft's

TIM - A Table-base Input Method Module

2002-07-22 Thread Arthit Suriyawongkul
anybody here interesting in this Table-based Input Method ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/wenju/ i've got this site from gtk-i18n-list. :) regards, Art Original Message Subject: Re: TIM - A Table-base Input Method Module Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:03:06 -0400 From:

Re: TIM - A Table-base Input Method Module

2002-07-22 Thread Hideki Hiura
From: Arthit Suriyawongkul [EMAIL PROTECTED] anybody here interesting in this Table-based Input Method ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/wenju/ i've got this site from gtk-i18n-list. I have not looked at this one yet, but you may also want to take a look at

Re: UTS #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm (UCA)

2002-07-22 Thread Michael Everson
At 06:15 -0700 2002-07-21, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote: The UCA provides a very nice framework. But if you already have a house, who needs a new frame? Because your already nice house isn't very friendly. It isn't tailorable by anyone but you, which means, in effect, unless you're an

Normalization

2002-07-22 Thread Debmalya Biswas
Hi, Before getting to the question, let me explain the scenarios first: Scenario 1: Need to compare strings containing Japanese/French characters entered from the command line against string stored in a SQL Server database (stored through an ASP application) as a nvarchar

Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-22 Thread Michael Everson
Dear colleagues, I was biting my tongue there for a bit, but as this list is both public and archived, I am afraid that I have little choice but to respond to Marion Gunn's revisionist history, as it reflects on my own activities working for the Universal Character Set. I will begin by

Re: Corporate influence on Unicode development (long)

2002-07-22 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/21/2002 07:30:33 PM Doug Ewell wrote: First of all, the figure that William (or any other individual) really should be looking at is not $12,000 for a full membership, but $600 for a specialist membership or $120 for an individual membership. (BTW, I would be interested in hearing --

Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-22 Thread Marion Gunn
Arsa Kenneth Whistler: Marion Gunn wrote: How many years does it take to get ISO/IEC work item accepted, then develop the corresponding Standard to publication stage, Ken? In the case of 10646, approximately 10 years, Marion. ... 10 years? And Unicode, after eleven long years, has

Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-22 Thread Peter_Constable
On 07/22/2002 10:15:37 AM Marion Gunn wrote: I do know what my company understood itself to be investing in through many expensive years of supporting Unicode. It was in the Universal Character Set and 10646 Implemenations, which I still hope to see Unicode produce, or at least a reasonable

Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-22 Thread Michael Everson
At 16:15 +0100 2002-07-22, Marion Gunn wrote: Kenneth Whistler wrote: Marion Gunn wrote: How many years does it take to get ISO/IEC work item accepted, then develop the corresponding Standard to publication stage, Ken? In the case of 10646, approximately 10 years, Marion.

Abstract character?

2002-07-22 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
I'm trying to find out what an abstract character is. I've been looking at chapter 3 of Unicode 3.0, without really achieving enlightenment. The term Unicode scalar value (apparently synonymous with code point) seems clear. It is the identifying number assigned to assigned Unicode characters.

Re: Abstract character?

2002-07-22 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Lars Marius Garshol asked: I'm trying to find out what an abstract character is. I've been looking at chapter 3 of Unicode 3.0, without really achieving enlightenment. The term Unicode scalar value (apparently synonymous with code point) seems clear. It is the identifying number assigned

Re: Abstract character?

2002-07-22 Thread Barry Caplan
I usually define an abstract character in talks I give as an element of a writing system that you care about, independent of glyphs, and certainly independent of endings or specific code points. If it could be described more precisely than that, it wouldn't be abstract, would it? :) This is

Tamil Text Messaging in Mobile Phones

2002-07-22 Thread Sinnathurai Srivas
http://www.gbizg.com/tamil/Unicode/Tamil_Text_Messaging.htm see the above for a sample of typical modern Tamil designed for mobile texting without rendering support. A typical Product; http://sms.gt.com.ua/ Text messaging in Tamil on Mobile phones. Would they

Re: Tamil Text Messaging in Mobile Phones

2002-07-22 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
For those who are interested in what is behind this message, a little background... Sinnathurai Srivas is a member of INFITT's WG02 (Working Group 02, Unicode Tamil) who has been long advocating changes to Unicode Tamil that would be done in a linear manner that would remove the requirement of

Re: Tamil Text Messaging in Mobile Phones

2002-07-22 Thread Doug Ewell
Sinnathurai Srivas avarangal at hotmail dot com wrote: http://www.gbizg.com/tamil/Unicode/Tamil_Text_Messaging.htm see the above for a sample of typical modern Tamil designed for mobile texting without rendering support. Rendering is the process of mapping character codes to displayable

Re: Abstract character?

2002-07-22 Thread Mark Davis
A small correction to Ken's message: The Unicode scalar value definitionally excludes D800..DFFF, which are only code unit values used in UTF-16, and which are not code points associated with any well-formed UTF code unit sequences. The UTC in has decided to make scalar value

Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-22 Thread Lisa Moore
Dear Marion, After checking the mail lists upon returning from vacation/holiday, I found the following comment on the most recent Unicode conference in Dublin rather surprising: When, after all the years of receiving Irish support, I saw Unicode's 2002 conference in Dublin being

Re: Abstract character?

2002-07-22 Thread Doug Ewell
Mark Davis mark at macchiato dot com wrote: The UTC in has decided to make scalar value mean unambiguously the code points ..D7FF, E000..10, i.e., everything but surrogate code points. While surrogate code points cannot be represented in UTF-8 (as of Unicode 3.2), the UTC has not