Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread Marion Gunn
For more than a year I have been so busy rebuilding my own company and juggling community responsibilities and invalid care, that I have had little time to keep up with Unicode/10646 club activities. I also have US spam of the nastiest kind running at over 80% of my e-mails, so I tend to avoid

Re: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread Michael Everson
At 12:25 +0100 2002-07-24, Marion Gunn said: I know ISO/IEC 10646 can not be made any exception to ISO rules which demand a review every 5 years, ISO/IEC 10646 won't need a formal 5-year review, because it has been under constant development. and I would like to know what stage it is at now,

The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread John Cowan
1) I wish to go on record, once and for all, that any postings of mine to this (or any other) mailing list represent my own opinion and not that of my employer or employers either past, present, or future, or any other person natural or juridical, except by a happy coincidence. The

Re: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Marion Gunn wrote: I also still want to know about implementaions (Unicode may not consider its brief to cover implemenations, the companies which combine to make the consortium sure do, and it would be nice of them to say how many such implementations are now

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread James Kass
John Cowan wrote, However, just as no trinities have fourth persons (Zeppo Marx notwithstanding) What about Gummo? (Or,... Karl? or... Deutsche ?) Best regards, James Kass.

Re: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread Marion Gunn
Arsa Kenneth Whistler: ... This can easily be found by checking current resolutions of WG2. Those are also a matter of public record, being open (unlocked) SC2 documents. The latest are the resolutions from the Dublin WG2 meeting: http://anubis.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/open/02n3614.pdf ...

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread Doug Ewell
James Kass jameskass at worldnet dot att dot net wrote: However, just as no trinities have fourth persons (Zeppo Marx notwithstanding) What about Gummo? (Or,... Karl? or... Deutsche ?) Stretch? -Doug

Re: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread Marion Gunn
Arsa Doug Ewell: ... Unicode does not create, or even certify or register, implementations of its standard. I have been paying attention to Unicode for 10 years now, at least casually, and I have never seen anything from the Unicode Consortium that gave me the impression they were in the

Re: book on Oirat

2002-07-24 Thread Michael Everson
At 10:28 -0600 2002-03-26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, Lincom Europa has a new book on written Oirat. See http://linguistlist.org/issues/13/13-804.html and http://home.t-online.de/home/LINCOM.EUROPA/nl.htm Sigh. My copy arrived today. By Written Oirat the author Attila Rákos means the

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread John Hudson
At 08:41 AM 24-07-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from:Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: The standard disclaimer James Kass jameskass at worldnet dot att dot net wrote: However, just as no trinities have fourth persons (Zeppo Marx notwithstanding) What

RE: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread David J. Perry
I think that it's very wise of the Unicode Consortium not to certify or officially promote any particular implementation. After all, some programmers are more skilled than others, and some implementations may not be of the quality one might wish. Or what if a member company produced a decent

Re: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread Rick McGowan
Marion Gunn asked: Please let me try again to ask about progress made, in that year, in re Unicode/10646 The minutes of UTC meetings are a matter of public record and recent minutes are on-line. So you can find out what was discussed at UTC meetings back to 1999. Please see:

Unicode certification - was RE: Dublin Conference:

2002-07-24 Thread David Possin
It would be intereting and helpful to be able to find out if a product is Unicode-compliant before purchasing it. There are various test institutions out there that perform that work for other standards. I don't think it would be Unicode.org's responsibility to provide for the certification, to

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread Tex Texin
John Hudson wrote: At 08:41 AM 24-07-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from:Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: The standard disclaimer James Kass jameskass at worldnet dot att dot net wrote: However, just as no trinities have fourth persons (Zeppo Marx

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tex Texin wrote: John Hudson wrote: At 08:41 AM 24-07-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from:Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: The standard disclaimer James Kass jameskass at worldnet dot att dot net wrote: However, just

Re: Unicode certification - was RE: Dublin Conference:

2002-07-24 Thread David Starner
At 11:24 AM 7/24/02 -0700, David Possin wrote: It would be intereting and helpful to be able to find out if a product is Unicode-compliant before purchasing it. The problem is too broad to be neatly solved. It's not like compliance to the Ada standard, where you can just write a bunch of test

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread Doug Ewell
Tex Texin tex at i18nguy dot com wrote: Hall? Check? Re- ? Water? No, too late. John Hudson already won this round, for finding a way to bring it back on topic. (Turns to John and bows, Pat Morita style.) Congratulations, master. -Doug Ewell Fullerton, California

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread James Kass
Marion Gunn wrote, You might enjoy a favourite of mine: _The HH Guide to the Galaxy_ (the 4th bk of the trilogy, specifically). Any series of books which begins with the complete destruction of Earth is bound to be amusing, eh? Best regards, James Kass.

Re: Dublin Conference: Re: ISO/IEC 10646 versus Unicode

2002-07-24 Thread James Kass
Sarasvati wrote, ...and John Cowan replied: Advertising on this list is well-known to be absolutely forbidden. I call on Sarasvati to act. John is correct. Please do not use this list to solicit business. Quoting from a post from Sathia which appeared today on the Tamil_araichchi

Re: The standard disclaimer

2002-07-24 Thread Tex Texin
Everyone prostrate and all together We are not worthy... Doug Ewell wrote: Tex Texin tex at i18nguy dot com wrote: Hall? Check? Re- ? Water? No, too late. John Hudson already won this round, for finding a way to bring it back on topic. (Turns to John and bows, Pat Morita

Re: Unicode certification - was RE: Dublin Conference:

2002-07-24 Thread Tex Texin
David, Why couldn't a checklist be established for each of the functionalities that you mention, which a product could score itself against for conformance, over a state range of supported characters? Recently, I did a search for a product, and it was difficult to know which scripts were