[Possibly off-topic] Fonts for experimental usage. (spins off from Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread William Overington
Peter Constable wrote as follows. On 08/27/2002 12:08:09 AM James Kass wrote: William Overington has mentioned the Softy editor. Please keep in mind that fonts are copyrighted material, and, mostly users are forbidden to modify them, even for internal use purposes. The best way to get

Re: [Possibly off-topic] Fonts for experimental usage. (spins off from Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Tex Texin
I'll summarize what I think the mail is about interspersed with my opinions. William Overington wrote: 1) Quotes mail from Kass and Constable 2) Summarizes same mail. 3) Questions if James suggestion to ask font developer for additional character is practical. In my experience it is. Clearly

Re: [OT] looking for electronic dictionaries

2002-08-30 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Eric Muller wrote: For my personal use, I would like to acquire electronic dictionaries, principally for the major European languages, with the following characteristics: - reputable source - raw datafiles accessible - I appreciate the interfaces that dictionary

Re: Revised proposal for Missing character glyph

2002-08-30 Thread Peter_Constable
On 08/28/2002 05:38:05 PM Doug Ewell wrote: Edit controls (edit boxes, text widgets) in Windows already come equipped with a right-click menu... It's not hard to imagine that menu being extended with a Character Info or What's This Glyph? item... Of course, I have no idea if such a thing will

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Edward H Trager
This message is in response to the previous messages in this thread. There *IS* a viable solution to the whole problem of adding a few extra characters to a font without having to wade into the potential legal morass of individual font vendor's intellectual property rights: The solution is to

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael Everson
At 11:00 -0400 2002-08-30, Edward H Trager wrote: The solution is to use collaborative Open Source development methodologies to produce one or more high-quality, operating system and vendor-neutral TTF and OpenType unicode fonts. Resulting fonts would be copyrighted and released under a

RE: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread jarkko.hietaniemi
And who pays the poor font designer for his work? U+0041 U+006C U+0074 U+0072 U+0075 U+0069 U+0073 U+006D U+0020 U+006F U+0072 U+0020 U+006B U+0075 U+0064 U+006F U+0073 U+002C U+0020 U+006D U+0061 U+0079 U+0062 U+0065 U+003F

RE: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael Everson
At 12:03 -0400 2002-08-30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who pays the poor font designer for his work? U+0041 U+006C U+0074 U+0072 U+0075 U+0069 U+0073 U+006D U+0020 U+006F U+0072 U+0020 U+006B U+0075 U+0064 U+006F U+0073 U+002C U+0020 U+006D U+0061 U+0079 U+0062 U+0065 U+003F Altruism or

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Curtis Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who pays the poor font designer for his work? U+0041 U+006C U+0074 U+0072 U+0075 U+0069 U+0073 U+006D U+0020 U+006F U+0072 U+0020 U+006B U+0075 U+0064 U+006F U+0073 U+002C U+0020 U+006D U+0061 U+0079 U+0062 U+0065 U+003F Reminds me of a line by a standup

RE: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread jarkko.hietaniemi
Kudos do not pay the rent. And altruism can run out when the rent needs to be paid ;-) Very true. But you make the hasty assumption that font designing is the activity creating the money for paying the rent.

RE: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael Everson
At 13:35 -0400 2002-08-30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kudos do not pay the rent. And altruism can run out when the rent needs to be paid ;-) Very true. But you make the hasty assumption that font designing is the activity creating the money for paying the rent. Only because so few

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
What scares me was that I puzzled that out almost instantly -- I felt like I was watching Wheel of Fortune or something. ;-) MichKa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:03 AM Subject: RE: Romanized Cyrillic

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only because so few people think that fonts are worth paying for that people who really OUGHT to be earning their living by making fonts have to do other things. There's something really wrong with that model. Isn't there? Of course, one could also

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Curtis Clark
I wrote: #x0055;#x006E;#x0074;#x0069;#x006C;#x0020;#x0049;#x0020;#x0063; ... Some of you had as much trouble with my XML entities as I might have had with Jarkko's U+ codes. Here is the transliteration: Until I converted Jarkko's text, I wondered if he wasn't trying to make a Unicode form

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Edward H Trager
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Michael Everson wrote: At 11:00 -0400 2002-08-30, Edward H Trager wrote: The solution is to use collaborative Open Source development methodologies to produce one or more high-quality, operating system and vendor-neutral TTF and OpenType unicode fonts. Resulting fonts

RE: Double Macrons on gh...

2002-08-30 Thread Robert
Hello, Unicoders! Recently, I read some messages saying that there're 3 new double-wide overstruck accents are proposed for Unicode: 035D: double-wide breve 035E: double-wide macron 035F: double-wide underbar (d-w combining low line) Please send me more info (and some documentation) on those

RE: Double Macrons on gh...

2002-08-30 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Robert Wheelock asked: Recently, I read some messages saying that there're 3 new double-wide overstruck accents are proposed for Unicode: Umm. Well, they aren't double-wide and they aren't overstruck, and their names are not: 035D: double-wide breve 035E: double-wide macron 035F:

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael Everson
Michka is right. The free font vs commercial font argument comes from the TYPO-L list, and probably isn't appropriate to this forum. -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread James Kass
Edward H. Trager wrote, ... I was also thinking about the issue of how do you get the highly qualified designers interested in such a project? ₥¤₦€¥ ₮A₤₭$ Best regards, James Kass.