RE: Comma below, cedilla, and Gagauz

2002-09-28 Thread Michael Everson
At 11:10 -0400 2002-09-26, Robert wrote: The proper encoding of those letters is with *cedilla* (yup -- the French kind...); thus, c-cedilla, g-cedilla, s-cedilla, t-cedilla, and so on! The proper encoding of the relevant ones in Romanian is s-comma-below and t-comma-below. The proper

Re: Comma below, cedilla, and Gagauz

2002-09-28 Thread Michael Everson
At 10:28 -0500 2002-09-26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You described Latin characters; are they using Latin script orthographically, or just for transliteration? Is Cyrillic still used orthographically? In 1995 a book Pravila orfografii i punktuacii gagauzskogo jazyka was published in Russian in

Re: Sequences of combining characters

2002-09-28 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:14 -0700 2002-09-26, Kenneth Whistler wrote: I am not suggesting this for bibliographic work, just wondering: for the bibliographic work I feel that a new character of a COMBINING DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE WITH DOT ABOVE might be a good solution. Possibly. It is certainly a simple

Re: script or block detection needed for Unicode fonts

2002-09-28 Thread Michael Everson
At 04:34 + 2002-09-27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some apps won't display a glyph from a specified font if its corresponding Unicode Ranges Supported bit in the OS/2 table isn't set. So, font developers producing fonts intended to be used with such apps set the corresponding bit even if only

Re: glyph selection for Unicode in browsers

2002-09-28 Thread tiro
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, my point was specifically that *part* of the infrastructure is already present, at least in OpenType, but not *all*, either in OpenType (meaning of language in the OT spec needs to be clarified, and relationships between these tags and the language tags

Re: Keys. (derives from Re: Sequences of combining characters.)

2002-09-28 Thread Peter_Constable
[Still off-topic, but I'm hopeful that progress can be made, so am continuing a little farther] On 09/27/2002 10:26:36 AM William Overington wrote: XML is the way to go. Maybe, maybe not. The issue of U+003C being used to mean LESS-THAN SIGN in documents which mix ordinary text and markup

Re: glyph selection for Unicode in browsers

2002-09-28 Thread Baiju M
Can anyone clarify this one: In Microsoft page here : http://www.microsoft.com/typography/OTSPEC/indicot/default.htm says Malayalam chillu glyphs are formed when inputting (consonant)+(virama). Can I use another formation for chillus, I want to use (consonant)+(virama)+(ZWJ) any problem? And any

Re: Keys. (derives from Re: Sequences of combining characters.)

2002-09-28 Thread Barry Caplan
At 12:24 PM 9/27/2002 +0100, William Overington wrote: You tell me which one is more likely to result in productive work and adoption by others. Likelihood of success and what actually happens are not the same thing. I do not know which is more likely as I do not know of what has happened

[OT] Time zone reported by e-mail (was: Re: Keys.)

2002-09-28 Thread Doug Ewell
Peter_Constable at sil dot org wrote: BTW, my mail client (Lotus Notes, for better or worse) reports what time in *my* time zone an author wrote the given message. Such reporting of time in international communications is problematic; time zones need to be stated explicitly. We discovered

Re: Keys. (derives from Re: Sequences of combining characters.)

2002-09-28 Thread Barry Caplan
At 12:23 PM 9/27/2002 +0100, William Overington wrote: Are you perhaps trying to make a deduction by the fallacy of the undistributed middle, along the following lines. William's need is a markup system. XML is a markup system. William's need is XML. I think what is being suggested is not

Re: Keys. (derives from Re: Sequences of combining characters.)

2002-09-28 Thread Doug Ewell
Marco Cimarosti marco dot cimarosti at essetre dot it wrote: He said that he didn't understand how this detail could help us but, anyway, he obtained the child's name and address from the parent: Daniel Zubeispiel Hauptkirchestrasse, 26 Zürich, Switzerland Is this a pseudonym? I am

Re: Sequences of combining characters

2002-09-28 Thread John Cowan
Michael Everson scripsit: I don't see why you wouldn't just let the accent positioning=20 properties sort this out. In general if you are stacking accents the=20 higher ones appear above and centred over the lower ones. Do they not? I would expect later accents to be above earlier ones

Re: glyph selection for Unicode in browsers

2002-09-28 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: There is no necessary relationship and, indeed, it is possible to conceive of a user wanting to apply, for instance, the typographic conventions of German to a language other than German. Indeed, if one is doing early modern Swedish, that is exactly what one

RE: script or block detection needed for Unicode fonts

2002-09-28 Thread Murray Sargent
Michael Everson said: I don't understand why a particular bit has to be set in some table. Why can't the OS just accept what's in the font? The main reason is performance. If an application has to check the font cmap for every character in a file, it slows down reading the file. Accordingly

Re: script or block detection needed for Unicode fonts

2002-09-28 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 01:19:58PM -0700, Murray Sargent wrote: Michael Everson said: I don't understand why a particular bit has to be set in some table. Why can't the OS just accept what's in the font? The main reason is performance. If an application has to check the font cmap for

Re: glyph selection for Unicode in browsers

2002-09-28 Thread Peter_Constable
On 09/28/2002 04:47:49 AM tiro wrote: 'Language system' (not 'language') in the OpenType specification actually means *writing* system, i.e. a particular set of orthographic/typographic conventions associated with the use of a particular script. 'Language system' is a misnomer -- an historical

Re: script or block detection needed for Unicode fonts

2002-09-28 Thread Mark Davis
Another alternative is to check the font at install time, and then make sure that the bits are set correctly. Mark __ http://www.macchiato.com ► “Eppur si muove” ◄ - Original Message - From: Murray Sargent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Everson [EMAIL