RE: traditional vs simplified chinese

2003-02-14 Thread jarkko.hietaniemi
I know little about Chinese, but I have the impression that it is much more common for several traditional characters to correspond to one simplified character than vice versa. If that's true, it seems to me that it would make most sense to fold to simplified. Hmmm ... Suppose I'm

Re: traditional vs simplified chinese

2003-02-14 Thread Andrew C. West
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:23:42 -0800 (PST), Zhang Weiwu wrote: I never saw 500B and 4E2A in one same printed document as I lived in China for 20 years. (Well, need to remove the years I cannot read:) Unless you have a obvious reason to do so, to print a book with Traditional characters is

Re: traditional vs simplified chinese

2003-02-14 Thread John Cowan
Andrew C. West scripsit: Interestingly, the dictionary quotes Zheng Xuan, writing in the 2nd century A.D., as stating that U+4E2A (the modern simplified form) is the correct form of the character, and that U+500B (the modern traditional form) is a vulgar substitute ! IIRC this is true of

Re: Plane 14 Tag Deprecation Issue

2003-02-14 Thread William Overington
On the last day of the consultation period I wonder if I may add a few notes about tags and plane 14. An interesting point is that there exists the possibility of defining additional types of tagging using codes U+E0002 through to U+E001A. Yesterday evening I began wondering for what matters

Re: traditional vs simplified chinese

2003-02-14 Thread Thomas Chan
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Take it easy, if you find one 500B (the measure word) it is usually enough to say it is traditional Chinese, one 4E2A (measure word) is in simplified Chinese. They never happen together in a logically correct document. Others have already given examples

Re: Plane 14 Tag Deprecation Issue

2003-02-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 13:38 + 2003-02-14, William Overington wrote: Books in libraries are often classified with a code consisting of digits and a full stop character. For example, the number 515.53 is on a label which is still on the spine of a book which I bought in a sale of withdrawn books from a library.

Re: Everson Mono

2003-02-14 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Michael Everson wrote: Anyway, while there are gaps in this font, of course there are gaps in all the other fonts out there as well. Announcing, then, the biggest monowidth font I'm aware of Please see http://www.evertype.com/emono/ Well, since many of us can't

Byte order mark (?) mars Unicode homepage

2003-02-14 Thread Michael Everson
Under Mac OS X, Explorer 5.2.2 displays a euro sign above the red title bar, creating a white bar which pushes the red bar down. This doesn't occur on other pages. Safari doesn't display the euro sign but the white bar is there. Same for OmniWeb. I tried to use UnicodeChecker in the OS X

Re: Everson Mono

2003-02-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 18:44 +0330 2003-02-14, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: Well, since many of us can't open that on a PC, would you tell us the number of glyphs so we can correct you if we found about any bigger monowidth font? 7,072 -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Everson Mono

2003-02-14 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Michael Everson wrote: Well, since many of us can't open that on a PC, would you tell us the number of glyphs so we can correct you if we found about any bigger monowidth font? 7,072 Wow! The next biggest monowidth non-CJK font I know, has just 5,013. It has Latin,

Re: Plane 14 Tag Deprecation Issue

2003-02-14 Thread Rick McGowan
William Overington wrote: Books in libraries are often classified with a code consisting of digits and a full stop character. And there are already long-established standards for library catalogs and computerization of same. Ask your local librarian about MARC for instance. Rick

Re: traditional vs simplified chinese

2003-02-14 Thread Andrew C. West
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:45:44 -0800 (PST), Thomas Chan wrote: I think zhe4 'this' (simp U+8FD9 / trad U+9019) might be better for a very simple heuristic for modern text, since it occupies position #11 in at least one frequency list (compared to #15 for the above-cited ge4), and as far as I

Re: traditional vs simplified chinese

2003-02-14 Thread John Cowan
Andrew C. West scripsit: On a related matter, I was wondering about language tagging for Chinese. zh-CN and zh-TW are used quite frequently, but what do they imply ? They are usually (mis)used to mean Mandarin, simplified characters and Mandarin, traditional characters respectively. IMHO, the

Converting old TrueType fonts to Unicode

2003-02-14 Thread Alan Wood
Two people have recently asked me how to convert TrueType fonts to make them Unicode compliant. One person wants to do this for Cyrillic, and the other for Byzantine Musical Symbols. I know nothing about creating or modifying fonts, so I hope one of you will be willing to share your expertise.

Re: Everson Mono

2003-02-14 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
I first made Everson Mono glyphs in 8-bit font sets in 1994. I've always been a perfectionist, but huge fonts are just so huge... there's never a good time to release, so why not now? (Several people have written to nag me about it. Very interesting. I've been using Code2000, but this might

Re: Everson Mono

2003-02-14 Thread John Hudson
At 07:25 AM 2/14/2003, Michael Everson wrote: At 18:44 +0330 2003-02-14, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: Well, since many of us can't open that on a PC, would you tell us the number of glyphs so we can correct you if we found about any bigger monowidth font? 7,072 Andale Mono WT from Monotype

Re: Converting old TrueType fonts to Unicode

2003-02-14 Thread John Hudson
At 09:00 AM 2/14/2003, Alan Wood wrote: Two people have recently asked me how to convert TrueType fonts to make them Unicode compliant. One person wants to do this for Cyrillic, and the other for Byzantine Musical Symbols. The easiest way to do this is to invest in a commercial font

Re: Everson Mono

2003-02-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 09:12 -0800 2003-02-14, John Hudson wrote: At 07:25 AM 2/14/2003, Michael Everson wrote: At 18:44 +0330 2003-02-14, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: Well, since many of us can't open that on a PC, would you tell us the number of glyphs so we can correct you if we found about any bigger monowidth

Re: Converting old TrueType fonts to Unicode

2003-02-14 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 01:12 PM, John Hudson wrote: Another option for re-encoding fonts is to hack the font cmap table itself. The easiest way to do this is probably with Just van Rossum's TTX tool. See http://sourceforge.net/projects/fonttools/. This is a Python-based open source

Everson Mono contents

2003-02-14 Thread Michael Everson
Basic Latin Latin 1 Latin Extended-A Latin Extended-B IPA Extensions Spacing Modifier Letters Combining Diacritical Marks Greek and Coptic Cyrillic Cyrillic Supplement Armenian Hebrew Georgian Cherokee Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics Ogham Runic Phonetic Extensions Latin Extended Additional

Re: Everson Mono contents

2003-02-14 Thread Michael Everson
Oh yeah, and Yijing Hexagram Symbols (*** nearly) -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Plane 14 Tag Deprecation Issue

2003-02-14 Thread jameskass
. William Overington wrote on the subject of Plane Fourteen tags and closed with a haiku. Since the best arguments in favor of not deprecating Plane Fourteen tags of necessity involve suggested or potential uses for those characters, and it has been mentioned that discussing such potential is