Jim Allan scripsit:
What this doesn't indicate is that sometimes in medieval text the
ampersand ligature is used to spell _et_ as part of a longer word.
Not just mediaeval text; c. for etc. (= et cetera) was common
right through the 19th century if not later.
--
John Cowan [EMAIL
Jim Allan scripsit:
See http://www.adobe.com/type/topics/theampersand.html for a short
history of the ampersand and some of its variations in modern computer
fonts.
Unfortunately the explanation of the name ampersand given there
is exactly backwards: it is not per se and, but and per se .
At 01:21 -0400 2003-07-13, John Cowan wrote:
I hand-write by making a tall lower-case epsilon glyph and then drawing
a solidus over it.
I just use the TIRONIAN SIGN ET.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
John == John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John Not just mediaeval text; c. for etc. (= et cetera) was
John common right through the 19th century if not later.
And picked up steam again online in the 1980s; groups.google.com
should have lots of examples of c.
-JimC
Michael Everson scripsit:
I hand-write by making a tall lower-case epsilon glyph and then drawing
a solidus over it.
I just use the TIRONIAN SIGN ET.
A good choice if you don't slash your DIGIT SEVENs and can make your
DIGIT ONEs sufficiently distinct.
--
Dream projects long deferred
John Cowan posted:
Not just mediaeval text; c. for etc. (= et cetera) was common
right through the 19th century if not later.
The combination _c_ is still used. Search for c in
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/consultations/environment/tacnh-00.asp for
example.
But in mentioning medieval use I was
At 14:09 -0400 2003-07-13, John Cowan wrote:
Michael Everson scripsit:
I hand-write by making a tall lower-case epsilon glyph and then drawing
a solidus over it.
I just use the TIRONIAN SIGN ET.
A good choice if you don't slash your DIGIT SEVENs and can make your
DIGIT ONEs sufficiently
Dear all,
Apparently, if you are a Eudora user and would to encourage Qualcomm
to add proper UTF-8 support to Eudora, you can a request for this
option to be included in a future version of Eudora to
http://www.eudora.com/developers/feedback/ -- as Eudora 6 is in beta
now, perhaps this is a
Michael Everson scripsit:
A good choice if you don't slash your DIGIT SEVENs and can make your
DIGIT ONEs sufficiently distinct.
Eh? I *do* slash my DIGITs SEVEN and I use a single vertical stroke
from my DIGITs ONE. The TIRONIAN SIGN ET as used in Ireland has no
horizontal stroke.
I
At 16:21 -0400 2003-07-13, John Cowan wrote:
I should have said do slash your DIGIT SEVENs. So the glyph in the
Unicode 3.0 book is not typical of Irish practice? It seems to have a
horizontal stroke all right.
It is utterly typical of Irish practice. I meant that it doesn't have
an additional
Would it be opportune to have a list of major commercial software (for
various kinds of treatment of text) that do not yet have appropriate support
for Unicode / UTF-8? We learned earlier about Quark's lacking in this area.
Are there others?
Don Osborn
Bisharat.net
- Original Message -
This is also a good thing for non-users to do, if your reason for not using
Eudora is lack of Unicode support.
(Which is my case.)
tex
Michael Everson wrote:
Dear all,
Apparently, if you are a Eudora user and would to encourage Qualcomm
to add proper UTF-8 support to Eudora, you can a
Adobe FrameMaker. It desperately needs it.
K
- Original Message -
From: Don Osborn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: No UTF-8 in Eudora
Would it be opportune to have a list of major commercial software (for
various kinds of
Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo dot fr wrote:
All this discussion shows that there is an extremely large number of
glyph variation for the ampersand which is both (at the abstract
level) a symbol character, and a ligature of two lowercase abstract
characters. But ligatures for the uppercase
...
Of course
Java already includes some parts of ICU, but other things are in
ICU4J are difficult now to integrate in Java, simply because IBM
forgot to modularize ICU so that it can be integrated slowly.
Accepting ICU4J as part of the core is a big decision choice,
because ICU4J is quite
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