At 00:57 +0200 2003-07-18, Philippe Verdy wrote:
Why is row 03 so resticted? Shouldn't it include those accents and
diacritics that are used by other characters once canonically
decomposed? Or does it imply that MES-2 is only supposed to use
strings if NFC form?
Also, is this list under full
On Friday, July 18, 2003 7:36 AM, Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 00:57 +0200 2003-07-18, Philippe Verdy wrote:
Why is row 03 so resticted? Shouldn't it include those accents and
diacritics that are used by other characters once canonically
decomposed? Or does it imply that
At 12:16 +0200 2003-07-18, Philippe Verdy wrote:
Is there some work at CEN to align its MES-2 subset into a revized
(MES-2.1 ???) which not only takes into consideration the ISO10646
reference but also its Unicode properties to make this set
self-closed, and actually implementable, at least
Philippe Verdy wrote:
MES-2 is a collection of characters independant of their actual
encoding.
To support MES-2 in a Unicode-compliant application, extra characters
need to be added, notably if the minimum requirement for information
interchange is the NFC form used by XML and HTML related
On 18/07/2003 03:16, Philippe Verdy wrote:
I still note that modern Hebrew and Arabic are excluded from MES-2,
as they are not used in any official language in the European Union
or EFTA, or future EU candidates. ...
But they are used in official publications within the EU, those targeted
at
On 17/07/2003 18:36, djinn wrote:
Although some list members may already be aware of these pages,
because there are still very few web sites today that present text
using a variety of Unicode ranges for purposes other than 'display
testing', I thought the entire list should know about the
On Friday, July 18, 2003 12:42 PM, Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:16 +0200 2003-07-18, Philippe Verdy wrote:
Is there some work at CEN to align its MES-2 subset into a revized
(MES-2.1 ???) which not only takes into consideration the ISO10646
reference but also its
On Friday, July 18, 2003 1:13 PM, Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 18/07/2003 03:16, Philippe Verdy wrote:
I still note that modern Hebrew and Arabic are excluded from MES-2,
as they are not used in any official language in the European Union
or EFTA, or future EU candidates. ...
On 18/07/2003 06:21, Philippe Verdy wrote:
But for these Asian languages, I think it's best to have fonts designed to
handle correctly their corresponding scripts, instead of a giant font poorly
hinted for readability at small sizes, and without support of common
ligatures.
Agreed. Giant fonts
Peter Kirk scripsit:
Agreed. Giant fonts have their uses, e.g. Arial Unicode MS and Code2000
let me get a flavour of complex script pages which I browse to on the
Internet, often by mistake, without having to install special fonts for
scripts I don't read.
However, a font like Last
Try universal detector in mozilla tree, most eastern asia character set
encodings can be detected with high accuracy.
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/extensions/universalchardet/
shanjian
Yogesh Kumar Ahuja wrote:
Hi,
Can any body give me the path/url to get a Char set Detector. which
At 13:35 +0200 2003-07-18, Philippe Verdy wrote:
I note that you prefer the European Multilingual Subset to MES-2.
Is it an extended set that includes MES-2, and fills the holes by
using all characters defined in blocks of some version of the
Unicode set?
It is script-based, not character
Colleagues,
Apparently some of you have got copies of mail I wrote in December
2002 entitled Coptic II? which has some virus attachment to it.
This has been sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not me, and I
didn't send it, and I use Mac OS X and Eudora so I don't have a virus.
Thanks.
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At 12:11 +0100 2003-07-18, William Overington wrote:
Thank you for the list of code points for MES-2.
I have already found that the DVB-MHP minimum set does not have some of them
and that the DVB-MHP minimum set does have some which are not in MES-2, such
as U+1EB0 to U+1EB5.
If this is of
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At 11:28 -0400 2003-07-18, John Cowan wrote:
However, a font like Last Resort (the world's smallest giant font, as it were)
does that just about as well.
While I hate seeing the Last Resort font show up, I love seeing it
when it does. :-) S much better than ?.
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Michael Everson everson at evertype dot com wrote:
Apparently some of you have got copies of mail I wrote in December
2002 entitled Coptic II? which has some virus attachment to it.
This has been sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not me, and I
didn't send it, and I use Mac OS X and Eudora so
At 13:07 +0200 2003-07-18, Kent Karlsson wrote:
This is not to say that the MESes are unproblematic. To mention just
two points not already mentioned: none of the new math characters
are included even in MES-3 (a, b), despite that all math characters
were supposed to be included
That isn't true.
A question mark is a sign of a bad conversion from Unicode (to a code page
that did not contain the character). This would likely happen on the Mac too
rather than the Last Resort font, wouldn't it?
On Windows, the cannot find a font for it situation is the NULL glyph. The
Last Resort font is
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This merely means that somebody has a virus who had both Michael and Roozbeh
in his/her address book.
People who believe that e-mails with a particular name in the From field
must come from that very person can be called, ehem, naiive.
At 00:44 +0200 2003-07-19, Adam Twardoch wrote:
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This merely means that somebody has a virus who had both Michael and Roozbeh
in his/her address book.
People who believe that e-mails with a particular name in the From field
must come from
At 15:45 -0700 2003-07-18, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:
A question mark is a sign of a bad conversion from Unicode (to a code page
that did not contain the character). This would likely happen on the Mac too
rather than the Last Resort font, wouldn't it?
No, it wouldn't. A not a character
I am pretty sure you have to be wrong here, Michael. Attend me:
1) API converts from Unicode to the wrong code page
2) API does some sort of work with the string
3) API tries to display the string
How on earth could it from the Last Resort font, unless it is a generic
glyph that contains no
There is a new proposed draft TR available for public comment on
http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr31/.
This document describes specifications for recommended defaults for
the use of Unicode in the definitions of identifiers and in
pattern-based syntax. It incorporates the Identifier section of
Michael (michka) Kaplan scripsit:
In any case, Code2000 giving some glyph for more cases is still a better
solution.
In any case, if you cannot read any of the languages that use a given
script, you are unlikely to care much what glyph appears, and if it
turns out that you do care, the LR font
Michael Everson wrote:
People who believe that e-mails with a particular name in the From field
must come from that very person can be called, ehem, naiive.
That's an interesting way of writing the diaeresis on nave, Adam. :-)
It's a good thing it's soft-dotted! Or perhaps he meant nave. :-)
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