Re: Compliant Tailoring of Normalisation for the Unicode Collation Algorithm

2012-05-16 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:33:03 -0700 Markus Scherer markus@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: I am puzzled as to how an implementation can compliantly implement the tailoring of normalisation in the UCA. I think

Re: Origins of ẘ

2012-05-16 Thread Denis Jacquerye
How about Ḝ U+1E1C, ḝ U+1E1D, Ṏ U+1E4E, ṏ U+1E4F, Ṥ U+1E64, ṥ U+1E65, Ṧ U+1E66, ṧ U+1E67 ? Which transliteration systems are they from? -- Denis Moyogo Jacquerye African Network for Localisation http://www.africanlocalisation.net/ Nkótá ya Kongó míbalé --- http://info-langues-congo.1sd.org/

Re: Origins of ẘ

2012-05-16 Thread Denis Jacquerye
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Denis Jacquerye moy...@gmail.com wrote: How about Ḝ U+1E1C, ḝ U+1E1D, Ṏ U+1E4E, ṏ U+1E4F, Ṥ U+1E64, ṥ U+1E65, Ṧ U+1E66, ṧ U+1E67 ? Which transliteration systems are they from? Ḁ U+1E00 and ḁ U+1E01 are also a mystery. -- Denis Moyogo Jacquerye

Re: Origins of ẘ

2012-05-16 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Denis Jacquerye moy...@gmail.com wrote: How about Ḝ U+1E1C, ḝ U+1E1D, Ṏ U+1E4E, ṏ U+1E4F, Ṥ U+1E64, ṥ U+1E65, Ṧ U+1E66, ṧ U+1E67 ? Which transliteration systems are they from? Ḁ U+1E00 and ḁ U+1E01 are also a mystery. Aren't they for minority languages in

Re: Origins of ẘ

2012-05-16 Thread Philippe Verdy
See also the use of letter a with dot below in VISCII: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VISCII

Re: Origins of ẘ

2012-05-16 Thread Philippe Verdy
2012/5/16 Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr: See also the use of letter a with dot below in VISCII: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VISCII Sorry, I confused the dot below with the ring below (due to display font size). The ring below is used in IPA but only under consonnants to make them

Re: Origins of ẘ

2012-05-16 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2012-05-16, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: The ring below is used in IPA but only under consonnants to make them voiceless. I don't know its usage under a vowel. Err, it makes them voiceless. E.g., in Japanese, Satsuki is [satsɯ̥ki]. -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable

Re: Compliant Tailoring of Normalisation for the Unicode Collation Algorithm

2012-05-16 Thread Markus Scherer
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: Section 5.1 of the UCA says that one may have a parametric normalisation tailoring. Aha :-) When you write normalisation tailoring it sounds like you are tailoring the normalization algorithm or

Re: Compliant Tailoring of Normalisation for the Unicode Collation Algorithm

2012-05-16 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:17:51 -0700 Markus Scherer markus@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: Section 5.1 of the UCA says that one may have a parametric normalisation tailoring. Section 5.1 is about runtime

Re: Compliant Tailoring of Normalisation for the Unicode Collation Algorithm

2012-05-16 Thread Ken Whistler
On 5/16/2012 2:54 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote: Similar remarks apply to 'reorder'. What if I move 'Q' and 'q' into the Cyrillic sequence? (I've a recollection that this letter is used in Kurdish written in Cyrillic.) Obsolete recollection. See: 051A;CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER

Re: Compliant Tailoring of Normalisation for the Unicode Collation Algorithm

2012-05-16 Thread Markus Scherer
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: The tailoring 'locale' is not orthogonal. Well, right, that one selects the Collation Element Table :-) The tailoring 'caseFirst' rather reshuffles the tertiary weights. I am not entirely convinced

Mark-Driven Script Categorisation

2012-05-16 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Wed, 16 May 2012 15:32:31 -0700 Ken Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: On 5/16/2012 2:54 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote: I have been wondering if U+0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X should be made common script because of its use for displaying Lao vowels, but perhaps the principle of separation of

Fw: Re: Compliant Tailoring of Normalisation for the Unicode Collation Algorithm

2012-05-16 Thread vanisaac
From: Ken Whistler kenw_at_sybase.com On 5/16/2012 2:54 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote: I have been wondering if U+0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X should be made common script because of its use for displaying Lao vowels, but perhaps the principle of separation of scripts should lead to LAO

Re: Fw: Re: Compliant Tailoring of Normalisation for the Unicode Collation Algorithm

2012-05-16 Thread Mark Davis ☕
No, it's not. Including x in Lao for some pedagogical (I'm guessing) purpose is completely out of scope. That'd be like including π in Latin because it sometimes occurs in the middle of English text. -- Mark https://plus.google.com/114199149796022210033 * * *— Il