On 9/11/2013 9:50 PM, Charlie Ruland ☘ wrote:
One final remark: Thinking about it I have the impression that the
blackletter vs. antiqua distinction once made in German very much
resembles that made between Hiragana and Katakana in Japanese. In both
cases the underlying systems of the
On 2013-09-11, Whistler, Ken ken.whist...@sap.com wrote:
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Thank you for that explanation!
Draft additional repertoire for ISO/IEC 10646:2014 (4th edition) (WG2 N4459)
http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2013/13151-n4459.pdf
Interesting. I see that disunification of the remaining IPA greek
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:50:23 +0200, Charlie Ruland ☘ rul...@luckymail.com
wrote:
One final remark: Thinking about it I have the impression that the blackletter
vs. antiqua distinction once made in German very much resembles that made
between Hiragana and Katakana in Japanese. In both cases
On 9/12/2013 1:36 AM, Gerrit Ansmann wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:50:23 +0200, Charlie Ruland ☘
rul...@luckymail.com wrote:
One final remark: Thinking about it I have the impression that the
blackletter vs. antiqua distinction once made in German very much
resembles that made between
On 12 Sep 2013, at 09:07, Julian Bradfield jcb+unic...@inf.ed.ac.uk wrote:
On 2013-09-11, Whistler, Ken ken.whist...@sap.com wrote:
[ lots ]
Thank you for that explanation!
Draft additional repertoire for ISO/IEC 10646:2014 (4th edition) (WG2 N4459)
On 2013-09-12, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote:
On 12 Sep 2013, at 09:07, Julian Bradfield jcb+unic...@inf.ed.ac.uk wrote:
Interesting. I see that disunification of the remaining IPA greek letters is
proceeding by stealth -
No, Julian. It's by design. Only theta remains.
Hm,
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:29:51 +0200, Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com wrote:
... The symbol for the empty set ∅ is originally a Greek letter phi ϕ,
ans some use the latter.
According to the autobiography of André Weil, quoted at
http://jeff560.tripod.com/set.html, the empty set symbol ∅ was
2013/9/12 Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com
On 12 Sep 2013, at 09:07, Julian Bradfield jcb+unic...@inf.ed.ac.uk
wrote:
No, just theta. The bizarrely-names Latin ʊ is already in use by the
Association.
I wonder when the IPA will start borrowing new symbols from Cyrillic,
Coptic, Cherokee,
I have been able to compress all lower-, upper- and titlecase
mappings, simple and extended (no conditions yet) of Unicode 6.2
into a 260 entry binary search array.
I'm not with this project at the moment, but looking at the
alloc/Pipeline.html it *could* be that those few characters alone
will
Steffen Daode Nurpmeso sdao...@gmail.com wrote:
|I have been able to compress all lower-, upper- and titlecase
|mappings, simple and extended (no conditions yet) of Unicode 6.2
|into a 260 entry binary search array.
Aaeh, to clarify this -- this thing covers the simple mappings (if
any; i.e.,
On 12/09/13 11:26, Johan Winge wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:29:51 +0200, Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com
wrote:
... The symbol for the empty set ∅ is originally a Greek letter phi
ϕ, ans some use the latter.
According to the autobiography of André Weil, quoted at
Le 12/09/2013 14:21, Neil Harris a écrit :
On 12/09/13 11:26, Johan Winge wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:29:51 +0200, Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com
wrote:
... The symbol for the empty set ∅ is originally a Greek letter phi
ϕ, ans some use the latter.
According to the autobiography of André
On 2013-09-12, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote:
Further clarification on this point was published in
http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n4296.pdf
Thanks, that rather more than answers everything...
Somehow I hadn't noticed that ʋ was there - and also bizarrely named, since
as
Le 11/09/2013 21:35, Whistler, Ken a écrit :
The two currently relevant documents are:
Draft repertoire for FDAM2 of ISO/IEC 10646:2012 (3rd edition) (WG2 N4458):
http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2013/13150-n4458.pdf
and
Draft additional repertoire for ISO/IEC 10646:2014 (4th edition) (WG2 N4459)
Talking about which ...
I confess I usually type a Danish Ø for convenience when I'm using this, though
for publication I would tend to substitute the proper ∅.
Whenever I saw the empty set symbol in printed math literature in
Germany, it closely resembled Ø; I don't think I ever saw a
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 01:21:28PM +0100, Neil Harris wrote:
On 12/09/13 11:26, Johan Winge wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:29:51 +0200, Hans Aberg
haber...@telia.com wrote:
... The symbol for the empty set ∅ is originally a Greek letter
phi ϕ, ans some use the latter.
According to the
Under Subject: Re: Why blackletter letters?
2013-09-12 20:20, Stephan Stiller wrote:
Talking about which ...
I confess I usually type a Danish Ø for convenience when I'm using
this, though for publication I would tend to substitute the proper ∅.
Whenever I saw the empty set symbol in printed
Regarding the empty set, the page
http://jeff560.tripod.com/set.html
rather convincingly attributes the symbol to André Weil, who says
that it was inspired by the Norwegian letter “Ø”.
Well, if one looks at earlier editions of the Éléments, the symbol is
clearly not printed as
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:30:47 +0200
Frédéric Grosshans frederic.grossh...@gmail.com wrote:
However, this character 12399 is absent from the ballot, which stops
the additions in the cuneiform block at 12398. What is the rational
for omitting this character ? Stability with legacy encoding (i.e.
I confess I usually type a Danish Ø for convenience when I'm
using this, though for publication I would tend to substitute
the proper ∅.
Whenever I saw the empty set symbol in printed math literature in
Germany, it closely resembled Ø; I don't think I ever saw a
On 12 Sep 2013, at 11:26, Johan Winge johan.wi...@telia.com wrote:
According to the autobiography of André Weil, quoted at
http://jeff560.tripod.com/set.html, the empty set symbol ∅ was inspired by
the Scandinavian Ø, and would then have nothing to do with the Greek phi,
except for a
CLDR v24 is scheduled to be released next week (2013-09-18). While the LDML
specification (http://unicode.org/repos/cldr/trunk/specs/ldml/tr35.html)
and release note (http://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-24) are
still being worked on, we'd welcome feedback on any major problems in the
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 09:06:54PM +0300, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
And below the university level Germans
write { }, which I like better.
The notation { } is quite correct.
IMO, in math texts the correctness is significantly less important
than being not ambiguous. (It is practically
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Whistler, Ken ken.whist...@sap.comwrote:
Basically, everything you need to know can be culled from the relevant
UnicodeData.txt entries:
01B2;LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V WITH HOOK;Lu;0;L;N;LATIN CAPITAL LETTER
SCRIPT V;;;028B;
028B;LATIN SMALL LETTER V WITH
Typo in section 2.3 Number Symbols, for the new item
superscriptingExponent which describes:
The superscripting can use markup, such as sup4/sub in HTML, (...)
Of course this is sup4/sup
2013/9/13 John Emmons e...@us.ibm.com
CLDR v24 is scheduled to be released next week (2013-09-18). While
The notation { } is quite correct. It just isn’t an atomic symbol for
the empty set but an expression consisting of the two characters “{”
and “}”, with a list (here, an empty list) of elements between them.
Reminds me of typographically composite stuff that has its own scalar
value (code
The situation with {} is very similar to the situation with 0̸ for
the empty set and with \ for set subtraction. The Knuth's version of TeX
was designed for typesetting his books, and he (probably) did not
encounter situations where the meaning of these symbols is ambiguous.
When AMS was
2013/9/13 Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com
Again, I agree with what you write, but … has always been a bit of a
mystery to me. I guess in the US-American (sub?)tradition where (some?)
authorities ask for spaced-out
. . .
. . . .
for ellipsis (with truly bizarre rules about
Hi Philippe,
I disagree. For me your spaced-out ellipsis (. . .) is not an
ellipsis but are horizontal rulers (typically used in tables or input
forms) to facilitate the reading of tabular data.
I disagree with CMOS prescription in this case, just as you do, but the
prescription exists,
2013/9/13 Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com
Hi Philippe,
If you want to use the ellipsis to mark something that has been truncated
at end or start of a sentence, you normally put them betwen parentheses or
braces, i.e. (...). at end of a truncated sentence or . (...) at start
of
2013/9/13 Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com
Hi Philippe,
[...] EXCEPT if theses dots are separated by extra spaces (larger than
the extra inter-letter spacing on the same line, in case of justification
in a column of text between fixed left and right margins)
Now *that* is a
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