Re: displaying Unicode text (was Re: Transcriptions of Unicode)

2000-12-07 Thread Erik van der Poel
Mark Davis wrote: Let's take an example. - The page is UTF-8. - It contains a mixture of German, dingbats and Hindi text. - My locale is de_DE. From your description, it sounds like Modzilla works as follows: - The locale maps (I'm guessing) to 8859-1 - 8859 maps to, say Helvetica.

Re: Transcriptions of Unicode

2000-12-06 Thread Erik van der Poel
James Kass wrote: Erik van der Poel wrote: The font selection is indeed somewhat haphazard for CJK when there are no LANG attributes and the charset doesn't tell us anything either, but then, what do you expect in that situation anyway? I suppose we could deduce that the language

Re: Transcriptions of Unicode

2000-12-04 Thread Erik van der Poel
Mark Davis wrote: What wasn't clear from his message is whether Mozilla picks a reasonable font if the language is not there. Sorry about the lack of clarity. When there is no LANG attribute in the element (or in a parent element), Mozilla uses the document's charset as a fallback. Mozilla

Re: Transcriptions of Unicode

2000-12-04 Thread Erik van der Poel
Mark Davis wrote: What wasn't clear from his message is whether Mozilla picks a reasonable font if the language is not there. Sorry about the lack of clarity. When there is no LANG attribute in the element (or in a parent element), Mozilla uses the document's charset as a fallback. Mozilla

Re: Japanese characters in Netscape 4.7 (was: embedding in HTML)

2000-11-28 Thread Erik van der Poel
Otto Stolz wrote: If you have the right fonts, and they display well in IE 5.5 but show empty boxes in Netscape Communicator 4.7, then I suspect you have not properly set up the latter. The font setup procedures differ substantially between IE 5 and NC 4 (I haven't tried NC 6, so far) to

Re: Japanese characters in Netscape 4.7 (was: embedding in HTML)

2000-11-28 Thread Erik van der Poel
Jungshik Shin wrote: I guess your diagnosis is correct for NS 4.x for MS-Windows. FYI, NS 6 (and Mozilla) for MS-Windows has more or less the same font selection mechanism as MS IE 4.x/5.x for MS-Windows and Netscape 4.x/6.x/Mozilla for Unix/X11. (I forgot what Netscape 4.x for MacOS

Re: C1 controls and terminals (was: Re: Euro character in ISO)

2000-07-13 Thread Erik van der Poel
Frank da Cruz wrote: Doug Ewell wrote: That last paragraph echoes what Frank said about "reversing the layers," performing the UTF-8 conversion first and then looking for escape sequences. True UTF-8 support, in terminal emulators and in other software as well, really should depend

Re: C1 controls and terminals (was: Re: Euro character in ISO)

2000-07-13 Thread Erik van der Poel
Frank da Cruz wrote: Yes, but I was thinking more about the ISO 2022 invocation features than the designation ones: LS2, LS3, LS1R, LS2R, LS3R, SS2, and SS3 are C1 controls. The situation *could* arise where these would be used prior to announcing (or switching to) UTF-8. In this case,