Re: Roundtripping in Unicode

2004-12-14 Thread John Cowan
it 99% of the time. (A private correspondent has come up with an ingenious trick which depends on being able to create files named 0x08 and 0x7F, but it truly is a trick, and in any case depends only on an ASCII interpretation.) -- Income tax, if I may be pardoned for saying so, John

Re: Roundtripping in Unicode

2004-12-14 Thread John Cowan
this hack to specify non-ASCII characters with double encoding (first as UTF-8, then with the %-hack), but the URI Syntax RFC doesn't say. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.comhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan Humpty Dump Dublin squeaks through

Re: RE: Roundtripping in Unicode

2004-12-13 Thread John Cowan
is semantically different from an untranslatable character, which is the purpose of U+FFFD. -- LEAR: Dost thou call me fool, boy? John Cowan FOOL: All thy other titles http://www.ccil.org/~cowan thou hast given away: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That thou wast born

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-13 Thread John Cowan
or not at all. -- John Cowan[EMAIL PROTECTED] At times of peril or dubitation, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Perform swift circular ambulation,http://www.reutershealth.com With loud and high-pitched ululation.

Re: Please RSVP... (was: US-ASCII)

2004-12-11 Thread John Cowan
included with the invitation for the invitee to respond with. An RSVP of course means a reply to an invitation marked 'RSVP'. -- My corporate data's a mess! John Cowan It's all semi-structured, no less. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan But I'll be carefree

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
? Something else? Neither. Unicode characters. -- May the hair on your toes never fall out! John Cowan --Thorin Oakenshield (to Bilbo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
think? It's also pervasive in English: SALT talks, OPEC countries (or nations), Missisippi River, Gobi Desert. -- [T]he Unicode Standard does not encode John Cowan idiosyncratic, personal, novel, or private http://www.ccil.org/~cowan use characters, nor does it encode logos

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
of characters. XML processors are required to process UTF-8 and UTF-16, and may process other character encodings or not. But the internal model is that of characters. Thus surrogate code points are not allowed. -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arise, you

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
in both XML 1.0 and XML 1.1. -- I could dance with you till the cows John Cowan come home. On second thought, I'd http://www.ccil.org/~cowan rather dance with the cows when you http://www.reutershealth.com came home. --Rufus T. Firefly [EMAIL

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
, it will become not well-formed. However, NF(K)D is not recommended for XML documents, which should be in NFC. -- First known example of political correctness: John Cowan After Nurhachi had united all the otherhttp://www.reutershealth.com Jurchen tribes under the leadership of the http

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
John Cowan than the trees and all other acyclichttp://www.reutershealth.com graphs; you have a right to be here.http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --DeXiderata by Sean McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-08 Thread John Cowan
is made is not sold to anyone. Neither of these things is true of fonts in any but the most trivial ways -- yet. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen,http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-08 Thread John Cowan
. You're not that great. John Cowan --Golda Meir[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-07 Thread John Cowan
NG compact syntax toJohn Cowan develop schemas is one of the simplehttp://www.reutershealth.com pleasures in life http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Jeni Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Word dividers, was: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-07 Thread John Cowan
your faithful service. --Gandalf John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences (was: Re: Nicest UTF)

2004-12-07 Thread John Cowan
that anyone would actually implement and support them in the universal way you envision, any more than they might a =93, =94 convention. Why not, when it's so easy to do so? And they'd be *there*, reserved, unassignable for actual character encoding. Plane E would be a plausible location. -- John Cowan

Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences (was: Re: Nicest UTF)

2004-12-06 Thread John Cowan
and shells, have hardwired assumptions, others have changeable assumptions, but all are assumptions. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread John Cowan
coverage of any font, though it costs US$5 to use them. Both of them IMHO are a tad on the ugly side. Googling for free Unicode fonts (no quotes) is useful. -- One Word to write them all, John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] One Access to find them, http

Re: Relationship between Unicode and 10646

2004-11-30 Thread John Cowan
is that the process loops until all such votes are resolved. Although the UTC does not have a vote as such, being a liaison member, its input is treated as if it were vote comments. If consensus cannot be reached, the proposal is eventually dropped, I suppose. -- Time alone is real John

Re: (base as a combing char)

2004-11-27 Thread John Cowan
.) In cases where ij is a digraph in Dutch text, i+ZWNJ+j will be effective. -- Kill Gorgn! Kill orc-folk! John Cowan No other words please Wild Men. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Drive away bad air and darkness http://www.reutershealth.com with bright iron! --Ghn-buri-Ghnhttp

Re: Misuse of 8th bit [Was: My Querry]

2004-11-26 Thread John Cowan
Unicode characters as immediates on a virtual machine by using some pattern in the upper bits that flags them as characters. -- Eric Raymond is the Margaret Mead John Cowan of the Open Source movement.[EMAIL PROTECTED] --Bruce Perens

Re: Relationship between Unicode and 10646

2004-11-26 Thread John Cowan
has a fixed policy of not overriding the UTC or vice versa. Here in Europe it does not go down well when US bodies claim the right to make decisions for the whole world, It's a mistake to think of the Consortium as a U.S. body. -- Mark Twain on Cecil Rhodes: John Cowan I

Re: My Querry

2004-11-23 Thread John Cowan
did this too. -- But you, Wormtongue, you have done what you could for your true master. Some reward you have earned at least. Yet Saruman is apt to overlook his bargains. I should advise you to go quickly and remind him, lest he forget your faithful service. --Gandalf John Cowan

Re: [even more increasingly OT-- into Sunday morning] Re: Unicode HTML, download

2004-11-21 Thread John Cowan
a man of few words. Rufus T. Firefly: I'm a man of one word: scram! --Duck Soup John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Unicode HTML, download

2004-11-21 Thread John Cowan
, but occasionally the need to sleep or to engage in business (I was at a conference all last week) or family business (a death in a friend's family) interferes with this otherwise laudable goal. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com In computer science, we stand on each

Re: U+0000 in C strings (was: Re: Opinions on this Java URL?)

2004-11-14 Thread John Cowan
which does not support strings containing U+ in most implementations. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.com But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Eowyn I am, Eomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless

Opinions on this Java URL?

2004-11-13 Thread John Cowan
way of serializing ints is to write them out as a 4-byte big-endian sequence. They simply have nothing to do with character encoding at all. -- He made the Legislature meet at one-horse John Cowan tank-towns out in the alfalfa belt, so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] hardly nobody could get

Re: basic-hebrew RtL-space ?

2004-11-02 Thread John Cowan
? Of course. It's sheer ethnocentricism. -- Values of beeta will give rise to dom! John Cowan (5th/6th edition 'mv' said this if you triedhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan to rename '.' or '..' entries; see [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/odd.html)

Re: not font designers?

2004-11-02 Thread John Cowan
). -- The Imperials are decadent, 300 pound John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] free-range chickens (except they have http://www.reutershealth.com teeth, arms instead of wings, and http://www.ccil.org/~cowan dinosaurlike tails).--Elyse Grasso

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-09 Thread John Cowan
have a letter named CHE distinct from the more usual, cross-linguistic Cyrillic CHE. There is no such contrast in this case: we do not speak of LATIN SMALL LETTER ICELANDIC THORN, for example. -- Some people open all the Windows; John Cowan wise wives welcome the spring [EMAIL

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-09 Thread John Cowan
in question are indeed unique to Yiddish or not. My other point stands. -- Babies are born as a result of the John Cowan mating between men and women, and most http://www.reutershealth.com men and women enjoy mating. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Isaac

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-09 Thread John Cowan
, it's annoying, but I don't see how it can be read as anything but FTHORA if you know anything about Greek at all, which is probably why it was overlooked until it was too late. -- You escaped them by the will-death John Cowan and the Way of the Black Wheel. [EMAIL

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-08 Thread John Cowan
for other languages besides Hebrew. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.com Mr. Lane, if you ever wish anything that I can do, all you will have to do will be to send me a telegram asking and it will be done. Mr. Hearst, if you ever get a telegram from me asking

Japanese pitch accent representations

2004-09-05 Thread John Cowan
/~sakusha/dict/martin-je.html http://member.newsguy.com/~sakusha/dict/kenkyusha-je.html -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Consider the matter of Analytic Philosophy. Dennett and Bennett are well-known. Dennett rarely or never cites Bennett, so Bennett

Re: MSDN Article, Second Draft

2004-08-20 Thread John Cowan
Windows codepage. Similarly, OEM means both an original equipment manufacturer and an 8-bit PC-DOS codepage. -- No, John. I want formats that are actually John Cowan useful, rather than over-featured megaliths that http://www.ccil.org/~cowan address all questions by piling on ridiculous

Re: Combining across markup?

2004-08-12 Thread John Cowan
they appear as block, inline, or not at all. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Promises become binding when there is a meeting of the minds and consideration is exchanged. So it was at King's Bench in common law England; so it was under the common law

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-23 Thread John Cowan
, then. I presume the Swedish-church-symbol is functioning as the variety of Alt that makes keyboard accelerators. -- What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the John Cowan sound of a [Ww]all that people have stopped [EMAIL PROTECTED] banging their head against? --Larryhttp

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-22 Thread John Cowan
? -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan Female celebrity stalker, on a hot morning in Cairo: Imagine, Colonel Lawrence, ninety-two already! El Auruns's reply: Many happy returns of the day!

Re: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr30/datafiles/DiacriticFolding.txt

2004-07-19 Thread John Cowan
unpointed Hebrew. -- Verbogeny is one of the pleasurettesJohn Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] of a creatific thinkerizer. http://www.reutershealth.com -- Peter da Silvahttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
Peter Kirk scripsit: But I think the best thing to do is to drop *all* Hebrew combining marks; the result of this is valid unpointed Hebrew. I agree. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies!John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, http

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
agree that in the TR#30 context, the Right Thing is to remove the character pair mappings altogether, and all of the single-character mappings that have canonical decompositions. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan I come from under the hill, and under

Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
it messes up Ctrl-Shift and Ctrl-nonletter key combinations. -- Well, I'm back. --SamJohn Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
. No, it isn't everything, but it's a great deal, especially considering the annoying behavior of the standard US-International keyboard. Why not release your keyboard to the world? -- You're a brave man! Go and break through the John Cowan lines, and remember while you're out

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
Peter Kirk scripsit: Anyway, is Yiddish in fact never written completely unpointed? That would surprise me. It might have happened at some point, but the standard (YIVO) Yiddish orthography would become illegible if points were stripped. -- Principles. You can't say A is John Cowan

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
(the latter will be part of 4.1), and make some principled additions / deletions. I'd say, start from the combining characters which are in ISO 10646 Level 3, and then add the combining characters from the abjads (Hebrew, Arabic, Syriac). -- XQuery Blueberry DOMJohn Cowan

Re: Umlaut and Tréma, was: Variation selectors and vowel marks

2004-07-13 Thread John Cowan
character, would have caused *unprecedented and catastrophic* equivalence and normalization problems. Indeed. -- Take two turkeys, one goose, four John Cowan cabbages, but no duck, and mix them http://www.ccil.org/~cowan together. After one taste, you'll duck

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-09 Thread John Cowan
in New Delhi. --Shel Silverstein -- Take two turkeys, one goose, four John Cowan cabbages, but no duck, and mix them http://www.ccil.org/~cowan together. After one taste, you'll duck [EMAIL PROTECTED] soup the rest of your life.http

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-09 Thread John Cowan
as shch. -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Tis the Linux rebellion / Let coders take their place, The Linux-nationale / Shall Microsoft outpace, We can write better programs / Our CPUs won't stall, So raise the penguin banner of / The Linux-nationale.

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-06 Thread John Cowan
John Cowan For XML Schema's too taxing:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd use DTDshttp://www.reutershealth.com If they had local trees -- http://www.ccil.org/~cowan I think I best switch to RELAX NG.

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-06 Thread John Cowan
). In addition, when it isn't the capital (bei jing = North-capital), i.e. 1928-49, its name is Beiping (north-peace). -- Here lies the Christian,John Cowan judge, and poet Peter, http://www.reutershealth.com Who broke the laws of God

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-04 Thread John Cowan
to reliably tell one name from another. This is true even though I have no more Greek, Hebrew, or Russian than I have Arabic or Chinese. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com If he has seen farther than others, it is because he is standing

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-04 Thread John Cowan
at a time when French was pretty much the international common language at least in diplomacy and art. Doubtless. I have even seen it spelled in German fashion in English a time or two. -- I suggest you call for help,John Cowan or learn the difficult art of mud-breathing

Re: is n with tilde used in French language ?

2004-07-04 Thread John Cowan
preceding the n. So e.g. France was Frãce. I believe that this spelling was used until about the time of the French revolution. In origin the tilde *was* a degenerate n, of course. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-02 Thread John Cowan
with you till the cows John Cowan come home. On second thought, I'd http://www.ccil.org/~cowan rather dance with the cows when you http://www.reutershealth.com came home. --Rufus T. Firefly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
these issues. Indeed. -- In my last lifetime, John Cowan I believed in reincarnation;http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in this lifetime, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't. --Thiagi http

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
Michael Everson scripsit: At 14:11 -0400 2004-06-30, John Cowan wrote: But the X WITH ACUTE characters there are exactly equivalent to the X WITH TONOS characters in the main Greek block, and the ones in the main Greek block are in fact preferred. How can you tell they are preferred

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
, John Cowan I believed in reincarnation;http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in this lifetime, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't. --Thiagi http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: decent unicode capable web app editor

2004-06-16 Thread John Cowan
is sufficiently broken. TagSoup never gives up and never loops, but doesn't know as much about HTML.) -- Said Agatha Christie / To E. Philips Oppenheim John Cowan Who is this Hemingway? / Who is this Proust? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who is this Vladimir / Whatchamacallum, http

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
done in the past, I don't think that one document is enough to support the introduction of new Latin letters; these look extremely idiosyncratic, personal, novel and private use to me. -- All Norstrilians knew what laughter was:John Cowan it was pleasurable corrigible malfunction.http

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
the text. Private use? Be serious, John. That's a pretty ridiculous suggestion. I am serious. The PUA is the proper place for these things. -- May the hair on your toes never fall out! John Cowan --Thorin Oakenshield (to Bilbo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
, or the evidence of breathing Africanists. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com Charles li reis, nostre emperesdre magnes, Set anz totz pleinz ad ested in Espagnes.

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
. It's just not useful to encode them, any more than it's useful to encode most of the scripts in the Conscript Registry. Find more documents, and the picture changes. (Find more Phaistos-type disks, and that picture changes too.) -- If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, John Cowan

Re: Revised Phoenician proposal

2004-06-08 Thread John Cowan
to the Croat-specific digraph compatibility characters present. That wouldn't make such an encoding a Good Thing in the wider world, though. -- He made the Legislature meet at one-horse John Cowan tank-towns out in the alfalfa belt, so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] hardly nobody could get

OT: John Cowan announces the Unix Power Classic

2004-06-03 Thread John Cowan
. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies!John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Proposal to encode dominoes and other game symbols

2004-06-02 Thread John Cowan
that a symbol merely seems to be useful or potentially useful is precisely not a reason to code it. Demonstrated usage, or demonstrated demand, on the other hand, does constitute a good reason to encode the symbol. Amen. -- The Imperials are decadent, 300 pound John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] free

Phoenician character properties

2004-05-29 Thread John Cowan
?John Cowan Very well then, I contradict myself.[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am large, I contain multitudes. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass http://www.reutershealth.com

An annoying ambiguity about which nothing can be done now

2004-05-28 Thread John Cowan
that it extends over two characters (DOUBLE BREVE, DOUBLE MACRON, DOUBLE MACRON BELOW, DOUBLE TILDE, DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE, DOUBLE RIGHTWARDS ARROW BELOW). Of coure MUSICAL SYMBOL COMBINING DOUBLE TONGUE is something else again. Thank you. I feel much better now. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: [BULK] - Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-28 Thread John Cowan
directionality it is going to be imbedded in. Both are Bad Things. -- There are three kinds of people in the world: John Cowan those who can count,http://www.reutershealth.com and those who can't.[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Phoenician, Fraktur etc

2004-05-27 Thread John Cowan
with Square script; finally the Jews wind up with the law in Square Hebrew and the Samaritans with the law in Aramaic using PH script. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'My young friend, if you do not now, immediately and instantly, pull as hard as ever you can

Re: Character Foldings

2004-05-26 Thread John Cowan
Mark Davis scripsit: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE = O + / That road quickly takes you to RFC 1345; I have some code for cracking 1345's format, and I should be able to prepare a mapping table fairly soon. -- My confusion is rapidly waxing John Cowan For XML Schema's too taxing

Re: VISCII (was: Re: [BULK] - Re: MCW encoding of Hebrew)

2004-05-25 Thread John Cowan
Latin letters (capital and small respectively). Ah. And on what principle do you distinguish them? The IETF clearly treats them both as charsets, within its definitions. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan You cannot enter here. Go back to the abyss

Re: Proposal to encode dominoes and other game symbols

2004-05-25 Thread John Cowan
is extensive and readily available. -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Tis the Linux rebellion / Let coders take their place, The Linux-nationale / Shall Microsoft outpace, We can write better programs / Our CPUs won't stall, So raise the penguin banner

Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

2004-05-24 Thread John Cowan
of Latin. -- Business before pleasure, if not too bloomering long before. --Nicholas van Rijn John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

2004-05-24 Thread John Cowan
from Unicode. Hence my desire to have Phoenician and Hebrew collate together at the first level (more for searching than for sorting). -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Penguin shall hunt and devour all that is crufty, gnarly and bogacious; all code

Re: VISCII (was: Re: [BULK] - Re: MCW encoding of Hebrew)

2004-05-24 Thread John Cowan
? And what is KOI-7? -- Clear? Huh! Why a four-year-old childJohn Cowan could understand this report. Run out [EMAIL PROTECTED] and find me a four-year-old child. I http://www.ccil.org/~cowan can't make head or tail out of it. http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: ISO 15924 draft fixes

2004-05-21 Thread John Cowan
on correcting it into Langues d'O, as in Histoire d'O. Not that I read French. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.reutershealth.com Not to know The Smiths is not to know K.X.U. --K.X.U.

Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

2004-05-20 Thread John Cowan
? John Cowan FOOL: All thy other titles http://www.ccil.org/~cowan thou hast given away: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That thou wast born with. http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-19 Thread John Cowan
be read TTB, corrupting it. *sigh* One of my favorite lines in the Unicode Standard reads: There simply is no traditional Japanese method of typesetting Devanagari. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are books that are at once excellent and boring

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-19 Thread John Cowan
Andrew C. West scripsit: The only thing that is certain is that Ogham must be rendered BTT in vertical contexts. For Ogham text in isolation this is fairly easy to accomplish by simple rotation, and one could expect writing-mode : bt-rl or writing-mode : bt-lr to accomplish this in a CSS

Re: ISO-15924 script nodes and UAX#24 script IDs

2004-05-18 Thread John Cowan
one in the very first stanza, showing that the pronunciation [EMAIL PROTECTED] was normal in his time. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Rather than making ill-conceived suggestions for improvement based on uninformed guesses about established conventions

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-18 Thread John Cowan
have done what you could for your true master. Some reward you have earned at least. Yet Saruman is apt to overlook his bargains. I should advise you to go quickly and remind him, lest he forget your faithful service. --Gandalf John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Multiple Directions (was: Re: Coptic/Greek (Re: Phoenician))

2004-05-17 Thread John Cowan
Andrew C. West scripsit: Thus, if tb-lr were supported, your browser would display the following HTML line as vertical Mongolian with embedded Ogham reading top-to-bottom, but in a plain text editor, the Mongolian and Ogham would both read LTR, and everyone would be happy : I don't know

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-17 Thread John Cowan
MARK? Not sure, but I had understood that bopomofo i (which is just one stroke) was rotated when vertical. -- My corporate data's a mess! John Cowan It's all semi-structured, no less. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan But I'll be carefree[EMAIL

Re: Multiple Directions (was: Re: Coptic/Greek (Re: Phoenician))

2004-05-15 Thread John Cowan
that have not need for Unicode support. Vertical Ogham does, but forced override is sufficient -- it doesn't need an *implicit* bidi algorithm. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.comhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan Humpty Dump Dublin squeaks

Re: Multiple Directions (was: Re: Coptic/Greek (Re: Phoenician))

2004-05-15 Thread John Cowan
-significant-digit first style: one and twenty and three hundred and -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lope de Vega: It wonders me I can speak at all. Some caitiff rogue did rudely yerk me on the knob, wherefrom my wits still wander. An Englishman

Re: Interleaved collation of related scripts (was: Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread John Cowan
don't want to do that), this means not only that they will see the two interfiled in a sorted list, but also that searching for a Serbian word in Cyrillic will find it in Latin and vice versa. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan Female celebrity stalker, on a hot morning in Cairo

Re: OT [was TR35]

2004-05-12 Thread John Cowan
in a way that's easy to understand. Me, I use mutt. GUI-based mail clients are just too slow. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Most languages are dramatically underdescribed, and at least one is dramatically overdescribed. Still other languages are simultaneously

Re: interleaved ordering (was RE: Phoenician)

2004-05-12 Thread John Cowan
evidence that this script is mixed with Square in the same text, though not in the same word. -- Evolutionary psychology is the theory John Cowan that men are nothing but horn-dogs, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan and that women only want them for their money. http

Re: OT [was TR35]

2004-05-11 Thread John Cowan
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Re: Phoenician

2004-05-11 Thread John Cowan
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Everson-bashing (was: Phoenician)

2004-05-10 Thread John Cowan
of character encoding) you know nothing about is beneath you. Try and do better. And then there is the matter of CJK unification, which I gather is still rather contentious. Only among the invincibly ignorant. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan One time I called

Re: Fraser (was RE: Public Review Issues Updated)

2004-05-08 Thread John Cowan
Kenneth Whistler scripsit: Fraser is to Latin approximately as Tangut is to Han. It is what you get when you create a de novo script for a completely different language, but you have a very limited notion of what a letter is supposed to look like. I'm sold. Separate script it is. -- John

Re: Default Ordering (was: Re: Phoenician)

2004-05-08 Thread John Cowan
Canaanite, ~ Old West Semitic) script itself, is a matter for technical debate and decision. Which we are now having the preliminary part of. -- You escaped them by the will-death John Cowan and the Way of the Black Wheel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not. --Great

Re: Phoenician

2004-05-08 Thread John Cowan
Mark Davis scripsit: - But I'm good at it, because invariably when I say it's a tree, I agree with myself. Hardly. If the rest of you hadn't agreed with his judgments most of the time, the Roadmap might look quite different. It's more like Potter Stewart on pornography. -- John Cowan

Re: Phoenician

2004-05-08 Thread John Cowan
own a TV).Elaine *lol* A former Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, who memorably declared in a 1964 concurring opinion that he could not define pornography, but he knew it when he saw it (and the movie in question wasn't it). -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com

Re: any unicode conversion tools?

2004-05-07 Thread John Cowan
or '' differently. Also, GNU tools are ported to Windows (see recode) or within Unix emulation layers for Windows (see also recode in Cygwin, or in the ATT Korn Shell tools for Windows). Recode and tcs are suitable for pure encoding translations. -- XQuery Blueberry DOMJohn

Re: Proposal to add QAMATS QATAN to the BMP of the UCS

2004-05-06 Thread John Cowan
search will work just as well as if I'd never changed my text. I agree entirely. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan One time I called in to the central system and started working on a big thick 'sed' and 'awk' heavy duty data bashing script. One of the geologists came

Re: Dorsey's Turned C-cedilla

2004-05-05 Thread John Cowan
the difference.) Not even Dorsey, it seems; his field notes are in a different orthography altogether, and the Dorsey orthography of his publications was apparently imposed on him by the BAE and its printers. -- Take two turkeys, one goose, four John Cowan cabbages, but no duck, and mix them

Re: Just if and where is the then?

2004-05-05 Thread John Cowan
that can be taught. Low (indeed, zero) cost software is now available that runs well on low-end hardware and fully supports the Unicode Standard, with no need for font hacks or further 8-bit encodings. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: New contribution

2004-05-04 Thread John Cowan
Bible itself being written in Aramaic) 3) adoption of the various supra-consonantal vowel and accent systems 4) The abandonment of most of the apparatus introduced in step 3, as far as productive use of the script is concerned, reverting to the 22CWSA. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED

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