Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-20 Thread Robert Palais
Hi James, I appreciate the research, and the humor! 2 pis = peace, eh? (not on the unicode list! :-) but I like that especially since the issue of a name has been problematic. e to the i peace =1 circumference = peace times r, integral from zero to peace, period = peace over frequency, has a

Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-18 Thread Robert Palais
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my part at least, I feel it is important to explain to proponents WHY their proposed characters may not be suitable for encoding, rather than simply telling them No. I thought that had been done quite well. I think the Unicode Consortium

Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-18 Thread Robert Palais
This is the same situation as having one person in town be the mural painter and another be the news photographer. Is every news photographer required to paint murals, too, or be otherwise accused of hampering artistic evolution? That seems to be the wrong analogy. The question is

RE: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-18 Thread Robert Palais
Oh my! I have to agree, the discussion on the impact of symbol uniformization IS extremely enlightening to me, although I'm somewhat apologetic again from distracting everyone from more serious and practical issues. Thank you all for your thoughtful responses, both on and off-group! On Fri, 18

Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Palais
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure I see anything new here. However, as I suggested, Dr. Beebe's intention was to bring the character to the discussion within the mathematical community where its potential for usefulness MIGHT be sufficient to encourage its appearance and

RE: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Palais
Lars Kristan wrote: 3.14... is to a circle what 4 is to a square. It is the relationship between the diameter and the circumference. No it is NOT, mathematically. The square whose Perimeter is 4 has diameter \sqrt 2. What is the side of a circle? It shows that the problem is so ingrained

The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Palais
Greetings, Dr. Nelson Beebe of TUG suggested I contact the unicode discussion forums regarding the need to clarify mathematical and physical notation with a symbol for 2*\pi. This was pointed out in my paper in The Mathematical Intelligencer v. 23, vol.3 2001 pp. 7-8 Springer-NY which may be

Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Palais
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Michael Everson wrote: I think it's cute. But I guess I'd call it tri. -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com Thanks, good suggestion! Don Tucker pointed out the stability of a three-legged stool. It has to be one-syllable, though tri

Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Palais
accident of 3.14... is described in the article, and dates to the 1700's - the Euler chose to simplify Periphery/Diameter, in their Greek spellings, \pi \over \delta rather than the competing Periphery/Radius, or \pi \over \rho Bob On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Rick McGowan wrote: Robert Palais wrote

Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Palais
of such an option for simplicity as well. Apparently I was wrong. Rather than use a new character, using the \TeX macro is easy enough for most of those in the mathematical community who use some version of \TeX. On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Barry Caplan wrote: At 11:33 AM 1/16/2002 -0700, Robert

Re: The benefit of a symbol for 2 pi

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Palais
To the members of the discussion: I saw Dr. Nelson Beebe today and discovered his intent was that I bring this to the American Mathematical Society's discussion forum on Unicode, not the general one. I will be doing so, and apologize if my inquiry intruded on your work, and at the same time,