RE: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Peter Constable
/12, N. Ganesan naa.gane...@gmail.commailto:naa.gane...@gmail.com wrote: From: N. Ganesan naa.gane...@gmail.commailto:naa.gane...@gmail.com Subject: [indic] Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33] To: Pavanaja U B pavan...@vishvakannada.commailto:pavan

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Michael Everson
On 9 Feb 2012, at 11:34, Sinnathurai Srivas wrote: To my knowledge, in day to day usage Tamil uses far more sounds than any language in the world. Nope. So Tamil uses far more phoneme for any language. Sorry, but this simply isn't true. For instance Tamil has 10 vowels [iː ɪ eː ɛ uː ʊ oː

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread srivas sinnathurai
Dear Michael, It is better if you do do some research before commenting. you say Tamil has 10 vowels. No Tamil has 5 basic PoA for generating vowels. then it has 5 of double matrai (not matra) matrai is to do with momental-timin!!! then it has grammar rule to extend vowel timing further, which

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Michael Everson
On 9 Feb 2012, at 13:49, srivas sinnathurai wrote: Dear Michael, It is better if you do do some research before commenting. you say Tamil has 10 vowels. No Tamil has 5 basic PoA for generating vowels. Please learn what a phoneme is. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread srivas sinnathurai
Michael, I had this discussion with many of the western theorists. I'm sure that you are sure what I mean by phoneme and what you apparently modify its meaning to make some ways. take it that by phonemes I mean different sounds. Now can you answer the 5 vowels as PoA in Tamil and numerous

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Michael Everson
On 9 Feb 2012, at 14:35, Sinnathurai Srivas wrote: Michael, I had this discussion with many of the western theorists. I'm sure that you are sure what I mean by phoneme and what you apparently modify its meaning to make some ways. take it that by phonemes I mean different sounds. The

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread srivas sinnathurai
Phoneme is tied to straight jacketed Alphabet as sound. So the Western thoughts does not apply to all sounds generateable represented by Alphabet as poA. You could still agree to the existence of numerous vowel sounds represented by structured PoAs. The linguists are wrong with classical and

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Philippe Verdy
2012/2/9 Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com: On 9 Feb 2012, at 13:49, srivas sinnathurai wrote: Dear Michael, It is better if you do do some research before commenting. you say Tamil has 10 vowels. No Tamil has 5 basic PoA for generating vowels. Please learn what a phoneme is. And not

RE: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Peter Constable
. Ganesan; Peter Constable Cc: wg02infitt; gbinf...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33] Dear All, There is a misunderstanding about Tamil here. To my knowledge, in day to day usage Tamil uses far more sounds

RE: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Peter Constable
Of Sinnathurai Srivas Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:19 PM To: maxwell Cc: Indic Discussion List; Unicode Mailing List; UnicoRe Mailing List; Michael Everson; gbinf...@yahoogroups.com; wg02infitt Subject: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U

Re: [indic] Re: Tamil Anusvara (U+0B82) glyph shape [ Re: Dot position in Gurmukhi character U+0A33]

2012-02-09 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2012-02-09, srivas sinnathurai sisri...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: take it that by phonemes I mean different sounds. Now can you answer the 5 vowels as PoA in Tamil and numerous vowel sounds in day to day use in Tamil. clearly different sounds, not allophones massaging, not phoneme massaging.