At 10:25 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hmmph. It was a mildly interesting question at first, and it wouldn't
have been too bad to see six or eight responses, but by my count we are
up to 52 messages in this thread. (53, counting this one.)
The participants have either fallen into a religious
Barry Caplan bcaplan at i18n dot com wrote:
My research over the last week indicates that the origins of Unicode
are very definitely of the same era and from the same community of
the people who brought the idea of internationalization to a critical
mass, and coined the term i18n. One has
At 12:37 AM 10/15/2002 -0700, Doug Ewell wrote:
Barry Caplan bcaplan at i18n dot com wrote:
What I am arguing against is going hog-wild making up new obscure
abbreviations from the same template, and
clogging the Unicode list with them. Anything beyond i18n and l10n
is tantamount to the man with
Raymond Mercier asked:
Isn't i18n rather off-list ?
Neither Sarasvati nor the self-styled list police have objected.
While historical origin discussions are OT, they do seem to have
an interested following on the Unicode list.
Perhaps more to the point, Unicode implementations are all about
At 11:56 -0700 2002-10-14, Kenneth Whistler wrote:
Yep. But at least nobody on this thread -- to date -- has claimed
a new invention, proposed to encode i18n in user space, or
proposed lyrics about it to be posted in their family webspace.
Well, obviously i18n should be encoded along with the
K5h W6r (hey, you're not cool any more unless you do that) wrote:
Isn't i18n rather off-list ?
Neither Sarasvati nor the self-styled list police have objected.
While historical origin discussions are OT, they do seem to have
an interested following on the Unicode list.
Hmmph. It was a
Isn't i18n rather off-list ?
Is this the same list where people objected to the endless arguments with
William Overington ?
Raymond Mercier
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At 12:20 PM 10/11/2002 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
Mark, I am curious why
I c u rn't up 2 date - we R there - check chat messenger - urgh
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Mark,
Mark, I am curious why
Guys,
Poor Mark was just expressing a preference, it hardly requires a debate.
And he was right to correct my comment about numeronyming (can I make it
a verb?) not being a trend. Probably creating them is a trend. Actually
using them seems to be rare. (I have been doing a few more searches
after
In an incredible feat of procrastination (p13n) for other things I
should have been doing,
I summarized and excerpted the thread on the origin of the term i18n and
put it on my web site:
http://www.i18nguy.com/origini18n.html
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In an incredible feat of procrastination (p13n) for other things I
should have been doing,
I summarized and excerpted the thread on the origin
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At 11:11 AM 10/11/2002 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
Sorry to appear the curmudgeon, but I've never seen any but a relatively few
people use this goofy form of abbreviation, and then for only a few of the
words on your web page. A search for normalization and Unicode yields
32,800 enties on Google. A
Sorry to appear the curmudgeon, but
^^
recte: c8n
--K1n
At 02:49 PM 10/11/2002 -0400, Tex Texin wrote:
According to XenCraft, if the software industry were to exert its
ability to influence the English language thru its control of message
catalogs used in software thruout the world, numeronyms (n7ms) could
replace words completely by the year 2016
Subject: Re: Origin of the term i18n
At 11:11 AM 10/11/2002 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
Sorry to appear the curmudgeon, but I've never seen any but a relatively
few
people use this goofy form of abbreviation, and then for only a few of
the
words on your web page. A search for normalization
At 12:20 -0700 2002-10-11, Mark Davis wrote:
I find this particular way of forming abbreviations particularly ugly and
obscure. It is also usually unnecessary; looking at any of the messages
brought up by Google, the percentage of 'saved' keystrokes is a very small
proportion of the total count.
At 12:20 PM 10/11/2002 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
Mark, I am curious why you find this term so distasteful? Is it the
algorithm itself or just a general objection to acronyms and the like? Or
something else entirely?
I find this particular way of forming abbreviations particularly ugly and
Mark,
Mark, I am curious why you find this term so distasteful? Is it the
algorithm itself or just a general objection to acronyms and the like? Or
something else entirely?
I find this particular way of forming abbreviations particularly ugly and
obscure. It is also usually unnecessary;
Kenneth Whistler wrote (in response to Mark Davis),
u shuld just be glad u wont live to see the day when netspeak roolz
and ur goofy language is rOxXoRed!
Mark, best wishes for a very, very long life!
Best regards,
James Kass.
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