Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Sunday 6 June 2010, Robert Abel freak...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2010/06/05 15:38, William_J_G Overington wrote: I feel that the encoding of a portable interpretable object code into Unicode could be an infrastructural step forward towards great possibilities for the future. And yet

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Saturday 5 June 2010, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: In particular, both ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2 and the Unicode Consortium and its Technical Committee have the right to decide that executable machine languages are not in scope for ISO/IEC 10646 and the Unicode Standard. Your sentence

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2010-06-07, William_J_G Overington wjgo_10...@btinternet.com wrote: Spoiling the whole opportunity just because the word virus has been mentioned is very unfair. As has been pointed out on countless (I can't be bothered to count them) occasions, any virus issue is secondary to the issue

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Saturday 5 June 2010, Mark E. Shoulson m...@kli.org wrote: It isn't and should not be the Unicode Consortium's job to sort through incoming ideas and decide which ones are nifty enough to encode. Unicode isn't here to make your dreams come true. It's here to encode what's there and

RE: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread Erkki I. Kolehmainen
...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of William_J_G Overington Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:49 AM To: unicode@unicode.org; Mark E. Shoulson Subject: Re: Overloading Unicode On Saturday 5 June 2010, Mark E. Shoulson m...@kli.org wrote: It isn't and should not be the Unicode Consortium's job to sort

RE: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Monday 7 June 2010, Erkki I. Kolehmainen e...@iki.fi wrote: The Public Reviews are organized for relevant items, for which there is a great deal of expressed interest. In my opinion and recollection, your proposal doesn't qualify for this. Thank you for replying. Public Reviews are

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Jun 7, 2010, at 2:48 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: I am hoping to submit a document to the Unicode Technical Committee in the hope that the Unicode Technical Committee will institute a Public Review. I don't believe that the UTC will institute a Public Review on this proposal

RE: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-07 Thread Peter Constable
From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of John H. Jenkins I am hoping to submit a document to the Unicode Technical Committee in the hope that the Unicode Technical Committee will institute a Public Review. I don't believe that the UTC will institute

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Everson
On 6 Jun 2010, at 06:17, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: Unicode isn't here to make your dreams come true. It's here to encode what's there and to enable people to do what they've already been doing, not what you think it would be cool if they did. There are grey areas. We all know that Latin is a

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-06 Thread Robert Abel
On 2010/06/05 15:38, William_J_G Overington wrote: I feel that the encoding of a portable interpretable object code into Unicode could be an infrastructural step forward towards great possibilities for the future. And yet you have not managed to list a single merit of your portable,

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-05 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Friday 4 June 2010, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: William Overington wrote: [I]f the idea of the portable interpretable object code gathers support, then maybe the defined scope of the standards will become extended. Well, yes. Later in the same post Doug wrote. The

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-05 Thread Doug Ewell
SS sisrivas at blueyonder dot co dot uk wrote: To the point, There are usage samples, there were/are publications/magazines even run by the then leader of the current chief minister of Tamil Nadu state. There are usage samples. Widespread!, this will be done eventually as with other

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-05 Thread Doug Ewell
I wrote: The common thread is for some folks to regard the Unicode Standard as a vehicle for advancing their own personal agenda -- promoting script reform, extending the understood meaning of plain text, or changing the way people count. Replace extending the understood meaning of 'plain

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-05 Thread Doug Ewell
I wrote: It is not discrimination, fair or unfair, if you submit a proposal for something that is not generally accepted to be in scope for the Standard, and the proposal is rejected on those grounds. Well, of course, it would be fair discrimination. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, Colorado,

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-05 Thread Doug Ewell
SS sisrivas at blueyonder dot co dot uk wrote: There will need to be explanations for a scalable plan. However, yes it is in use today, though not by the majority (yet). ie, u and uu matras legation is in contemporary (majority) use. Non legated u and uu are also in use, but by minority at

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-05 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
On 06/05/2010 07:18 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: William_J_G Overington wjgo underscore 10009 at btinternet dot com wrote: I feel that the encoding of a portable interpretable object code into Unicode could be an infrastructural step forward towards great possibilities for the future. And I think

Overloading Unicode

2010-06-04 Thread Doug Ewell
I've noticed a common thread this week. Sinnathurai Srivas wrote: Allow linear display [of Tamil], when a font is designed for that purpose. (The other is complex rendered contemporary display). Linear display can be used for some time to come, while the Government passes a decree for a

Re: Overloading Unicode

2010-06-04 Thread SS
and also there is not a requirement for complex rendering, contary to contemporary display. Sinnathurai - Original Message - From: Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org To: unicode@unicode.org Sent: 04 June 2010 23:12 Subject: Overloading Unicode I've noticed a common thread this week