Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode
> > On 29 August 2018 at 13:05 Andrew West via Unicode > wrote: > > I tested with Word 2007, and normal PUA characters from my font were > > displayed with vertical orientation in a vertical text box, but Plane > 15 PUA characters were rotated. > And then the original

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread Andrew West via Unicode
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 11:18, wrote: > > I was using a change horizontal to vertical text feature in office, the > PUA characters being from plane 15. I tested with Word 2007, and normal PUA characters from my font were displayed with vertical orientation in a vertical text box, but Plane 15 PUA

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread via Unicode
Dear Andrew, I was using a change horizontal to vertical text feature in office, the PUA characters being from plane 15. Regards John On 2018-08-29 16:32, Andrew West via Unicode wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 05:07, via Unicode wrote: Yes, as Richard says when CJK Zhuang text is

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread Andrew West via Unicode
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 05:07, via Unicode wrote: > > Yes, as Richard says when CJK Zhuang text is displayed vertically whilst > the Zhuang characters in Unicode remain upright, but those with PUA > codepoints are rotated 90°. John, you did not explain by what mechanism you were trying to display

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread Andrew West via Unicode
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 18:15, WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode wrote: > > Unicode is doing what it can in this matter: > > (a) Zhuang PUA characters are being made individually obsolete. Not by a nebulous entity called "Unicode", or even by the Unicode Consortium per se, but by the hard work over

Re: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-29 Thread James Kass via Unicode
John Knightley wrote, > Yes, as Richard says when CJK Zhuang text is displayed > vertically whilst the Zhuang characters in Unicode remain > upright, but those with PUA codepoints are rotated 90°. > This is because the PUA characters are treated like English > text, which are correctly rotated

RE: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-28 Thread via Unicode
Dear Richard and Peter, apologies for the lack of clarity. Let me try to explain below. On 2018-08-29 01:13, WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode wrote: On 27 August 2018 at 15:22 Peter Constable via Unicode wrote: Layout engines that support CJK vertical layout do not rely on the 'vert' feature

RE: Private Use areas - Vertical Text

2018-08-28 Thread WORDINGHAM RICHARD via Unicode
> > On 27 August 2018 at 15:22 Peter Constable via Unicode > wrote: > > Layout engines that support CJK vertical layout do not rely on the 'vert' > feature to rotate glyphs for CJK ideographs, but rather rotate the glyph 90° > and switch to using vertical glyph metrics. The 'vert'