Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-22 Thread Joel Rees
Hi, William, I have to admit that I really haven't looked carefully at your transformation techniques and their intended purpose. But it strikes me that you might be re-inventing the wheel. A number of schemes exist for squeezing wide bit patterns into narrow bit streams. UTF-8 has been adopted

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-21 Thread Joel Rees
AIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:30 AM Subject: Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode) The following statements have been made by participants in this thread. 1. A few days ago I said there was a "widespread belief" that Unicode is a

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-20 Thread P. T. Rourke
extensive reading on the website (or in the book). Patrick Rourke - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Unicode List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode) On 02

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-20 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-02-20 06:18:34 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the Unicode-related functions in Prague growing out of size, I moved them into a new library called 'Babylon'. It will provide all the functionality defined in the Unicode standard (it is not

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-20 Thread Tobias Hunger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 20 February 2001 17:03, you wrote: In a message dated 2001-02-20 06:18:34 Pacific Standard Time, into a new library called 'Babylon'. It will provide all the functionality defined in the Unicode standard (it is not Unicode but

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-20 Thread William Overington
The following statements have been made by participants in this thread. 1. A few days ago I said there was a "widespread belief" that Unicode is a 16-bit-only character set that ends at U+. A corollary is that the supplementary characters ranging from U+1 to U+10 are either

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-20 Thread Peter_Constable
On 02/20/2001 11:18:40 AM Tobias Hunger wrote: Looks like David was quoting me. I am working on Babylon and wanted to make clear that it is not unicode conformant as its API uses 32bit wide characters which violates clause 1 of Section 3.1. This is something that UTC should clean up because C1

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-20 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Paul Keinänen said: [86-M8] Motion: Amend Unicode 3.1 to change the Chapter 3, C1 conformance clause to read "A process shall interpret Unicode code units (values) in accordance with the Unicode transformation format used." (passed) While this wording makes it possible to handle any 32 bit

Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-19 Thread DougEwell2
A few days ago I said there was a "widespread belief" that Unicode is a 16-bit-only character set that ends at U+. A corollary is that the supplementary characters ranging from U+1 to U+10 are either little-known or perceived to belong to ISO/IEC 10646 only, not to Unicode. At

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-19 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 05:42:41PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few days ago I said there was a "widespread belief" that Unicode is a 16-bit-only character set that ends at U+. A corollary is that the supplementary characters ranging from U+1 to U+10 are either

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-16 Thread Tom Lord
Because of the widespread belief that Unicode stops at U+, many fonts and applications that claim to support Unicode can only handle basic characters, not supplementary characters. Right. (Is it really a widespread belief? That's something I've been wondering.) So

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-16 Thread J M Sykes
See end - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Unicode List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:05 AM Subject: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode In a message dated 2001-02-15 15:26:55 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 2001-0

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-16 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-02-16 0:19:01 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because of the widespread belief that Unicode stops at U+, many fonts and applications that claim to support Unicode can only handle basic characters, not supplementary characters. Right.

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-16 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Tom Lord asked: It has proven difficult to come up with convenient terms for the Unicode characters encoded at U+1 and beyond. [] 2. A 'basic' code point, which may represent a 'basic character', can range from U+ through U+. For what purpose is such a

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-15 Thread jgo
At 2001-02-06 07:48:29 -0800 Mark Davis wrote: At 2001-02-06 01:51 "nikita k" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is surrogate space in unicode? It is the set of code points that can be addressed using surrogate code points. For more information, see the glossary at www.unicode.org. +

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-15 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-02-15 15:26:55 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 2001-02-06 07:48:29 -0800 Mark Davis wrote: At 2001-02-06 01:51 "nikita k" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is surrogate space in unicode? (Mark defines various terms relating to 'supplementary'

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-15 Thread Tom Lord
It has proven difficult to come up with convenient terms for the Unicode characters encoded at U+1 and beyond. [] 2. A 'basic' code point, which may represent a 'basic character', can range from U+ through U+. For what purpose is such a

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-15 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-02-15 23:15:23 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has proven difficult to come up with convenient terms for the Unicode characters encoded at U+1 and beyond. [] 2. A 'basic' code point, which may represent a 'basic character', can

Re: Surrogate space in Unicode

2001-02-06 Thread Mark Davis
It is the set of code points that can be addressed using surrogate code points. For more information, see the glossary at www.unicode.org. Mark - Original Message - From: "nikita k" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Unicode List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 01:51 Subject: