Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-13 Thread Otto Stolz
Mark Davis schrieb: This is just a confusion among the hoi polloi. And here we have yet another example: hoi is Greek for the (hoi polloi = the many). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-13 Thread Mark Davis
: Monday, December 13, 2004 08:21 Subject: Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences) Mark Davis schrieb: This is just a confusion among the hoi polloi. And here we have yet another example: hoi is Greek for the (hoi polloi = the many). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-13 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Dec 10, 2004, at 1:25 PM, Tim Greenwood wrote: Is that like the 'Please RSVP' that I see all too often? Or should that not be excused? Or -- my own personal favorite -- in the year AD 2004.

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-11 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:38 -0800 2004-12-10, Asmus Freytag wrote: Other examples of apparent redundancy, are Cakes - Keks (German), plural Kekse Baby - bebis (Swedish), plural bebissar and there are many more such examples. In Ireland sometime in the early nineties, the Allied Irish Bank became AIB Bank, the

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-11 Thread Johannes Bergerhausen
Am 11.12.2004 um 04:32 schrieb Clark Cox: There are always the classics: ATM Machine and PIN Number Here in germany, they say ASCII-Code. :-) Johannes

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-11 Thread Peter Kirk
On 11/12/2004 02:29, Mark Davis wrote: This is just a confusion among the hoi polloi. Mark But such things happen not just among the German and Swedish polloi, but even in the crowning heights of the English language. The word cherubims is used many times in the King James Bible and at least

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-11 Thread Doug Ewell
Michael Everson everson at evertype dot com wrote: In Ireland sometime in the early nineties, the Allied Irish Bank became AIB Bank, the Allied Irish Bank Bank. Israel Discount Bank of New York regularly refers to itself as IDB Bank. -Doug Ewell Fullerton, California

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Kenneth Whistler
If any criticism was present, it referred to the redundant US- prefix in US-ASCII, not to Unicode, and even that wasn't really criticism, just my lack of understanding /why/. In addition to Doug's historical clarification, you need to understand this as a perfectly normal linguistic

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Tim Greenwood
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:06:12 -0800 (PST), Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to Doug's historical clarification, you need to understand this as a perfectly normal linguistic process of attributive disambiguation of a term which had grown ambiguous in usage. Is that like

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Tim Greenwood asked: ... a perfectly normal linguistic process of attributive disambiguation of a term which had grown ambiguous in usage. Is that like the 'Please RSVP' that I see all too often? Or should that not be excused? *grins* Well, technically, that is not a case of

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
Kenneth Whistler scripsit: On the other hand, for many English speakers, RSVP is simply learned as an unanalyzed verb, pronounced aressveepee, meaning send a response to this message. And to castigate such speakers for politely prepending a please to that verb is a little too much, don't you

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Mark Davis
This is just a confusion among the hoi polloi. Mark - Original Message - From: Asmus Freytag [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 17:38 Subject: Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 12:50 PM 12/10/2004, Kenneth Whistler wrote: Tim Greenwood asked: ... a perfectly normal linguistic process of attributive disambiguation of a term which had grown ambiguous in usage. Is that like the 'Please RSVP' that I see all too often? Or should that not be excused? *grins* Well,

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Clark Cox
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:28:59 -0800, Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the other hand, for many English speakers, RSVP is simply learned as an unanalyzed verb, pronounced aressveepee, meaning send a response to this message. And to

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the other hand, for many English speakers, RSVP is simply learned as an unanalyzed verb, pronounced aressveepee, meaning send a response to this message. And to castigate such speakers for politely prepending a please to that verb is a little too

US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-09 Thread Doug Ewell
Arcane Jill arcanejill at ramonsky dot com wrote: [OFF TOPIC] Why do so many people call it US ASCII anyway? Since ASCII comprises that subset of Unicode from U+ to U+007F, it is not clear to me in what way US-ASCII is different from ASCII. It's bad enough for us non-Americans that the A

RE: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-09 Thread Arcane Jill
. :-) Oh, and thanks for the interesting historical character set info. Jill -Original Message- From: Doug Ewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 December 2004 16:28 To: Unicode Mailing List Cc: Arcane Jill Subject: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences) I hope that's just a joke

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-09 Thread Arcane Jill
- Original Message - From: Arcane Jill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Unicode [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: RE: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences) Yes, of course it was a joke. Rest assured, if I perceive any kind of bias in Unicode, I shall say so