RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-14 Thread Marcel Schneider
On January 7, 2016, at 00:39, Shawn Steele wrote: >> Ø I think any training in non-Unicode character sets is beyond a standard >> curriculum, except perhaps History of Computing or Digital Archaeology :) > One could only hope. Since the topic widened to font design, one easily agrees that

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-11 Thread Marcel Schneider
On 1/6/2016 3:27 PM, Shawn Steele wrote: […] > Teach them right the first time. They’ll never use a code page. On 6 Jan 2016 15:32:33, Asmus Freytag (t) wrote: […] > +1 On 11 Jan 2016 14:22:53, Albrecht Dreiheller wrote: […] > When setting up a requirement specification for a font

AW: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-11 Thread Dreiheller, Albrecht
From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] Im Auftrag von Shawn Steele Date: Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2016 00:27 To: Asmus Freytag (t); unicode@unicode.org Subject: RE: Unicode in the Curriculum? Then it should be UTF-8. Learning to do something in a non-Unicode code page and then redoing

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Andre Schappo
On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:59, Asmus Freytag (t) wrote: > On 1/4/2016 6:44 AM, Elizabeth J. Pyatt wrote: >> Like some others on the list, I believe Unicode should be mentioned at >> different points in a programming curriculum, particularly at the time when >> ASCII would be taught. > ASCII

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Shawn Steele
tler Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:44 AM To: Andre Schappo <a.scha...@lboro.ac.uk><mailto:a.scha...@lboro.ac.uk> Cc: unicode@unicode.org<mailto:unicode@unicode.org> Subject: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? Actually, ASCII should *not* be ignored or deprecated. We *love* ASC

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Shawn Steele
Ø I think any training in non-Unicode character sets is beyond a standard curriculum, except perhaps History of Computing or Digital Archaeology :) One could only hope.

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
, 2016 3:19 PM *To:* unicode@unicode.org *Subject:* Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? On 1/6/2016 10:59 AM, Shawn Steele wrote: +1 :) I'm not going to join the happy chorus here. The "bunny" slope for most people is their own native language... A./ -Original Message-

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Erkki I Kolehmainen
+1 I cannot but agree with Asmus. Sincerely, Erkki Lähettäjä: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] Puolesta Asmus Freytag (t) Lähetetty: 7. tammikuuta 2016 01:19 Vastaanottaja: unicode@unicode.org Aihe: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? On 1/6/2016 10:59 AM, Shawn Steele

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
m: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Ken Whistler Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:44 AM To: Andre Schappo <a.scha...@lboro.ac.uk> Cc: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? Actually, ASCII should *not* be ignored or deprecated. We *love* ASCII. The issue is

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-06 Thread Shawn Steele
+1 :) -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Ken Whistler Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:44 AM To: Andre Schappo <a.scha...@lboro.ac.uk> Cc: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? Actually, ASCII

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-05 Thread Martin J. Dürst
wrote: I have been hitting my head against the Academic Brick Wall for years WRT getting IT i18n and Unicode on the curriculum and I am losing. I did teach a final year elective module on IT i18n but a few months ago my University dropped it. I am continually puzzled by the lack of interest Uni

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? (Julian Bradfield)

2016-01-04 Thread Elizabeth J. Pyatt
Like some others on the list, I believe Unicode should be mentioned at different points in a programming curriculum, particularly at the time when ASCII would be taught. Font design and typography is perhaps a different topic, but if it’s mentioned, why not mention CSS/font options for

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum? (Julian Bradfield)

2016-01-04 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 1/4/2016 6:44 AM, Elizabeth J. Pyatt wrote: Like some others on the list, I believe Unicode should be mentioned at different points in a programming curriculum, particularly at the time when ASCII would be taught. ASCII shouldn't be taught, perhaps?

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-01 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
ach. A./ All for now André Schappo On 31 Dec 2015, at 18:58, Julian Bradfield wrote: On 2015-12-31, Andre Schappo <a.scha...@lboro.ac.uk> wrote: I have been hitting my head against the Academic Brick Wall for years WRT getting IT

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2016-01-01 Thread Andre Schappo
ro.ac.uk> wrote: > >> I have been hitting my head against the Academic Brick Wall for >> years WRT getting IT i18n and Unicode on the curriculum and I am >> losing. I did teach a final year elective module on IT i18n but a >> few months ago my University dropped i

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2015-12-31 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2015-12-31, Andre Schappo <a.scha...@lboro.ac.uk> wrote: > I have been hitting my head against the Academic Brick Wall for > years WRT getting IT i18n and Unicode on the curriculum and I am > losing. I did teach a final year elective module on IT i18n but a > few months

RE: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2015-12-30 Thread Phillips, Addison
ot a feature. It is an architecture. > -Original Message- > From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Andre > Schappo > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:16 AM > To: Unicode Public > Subject: Unicode in the Curriculum? > > A few months ago I asked

Unicode in the Curriculum?

2015-12-30 Thread Andre Schappo
A few months ago I asked a class of 140+ first year Computer Science programme and Joint programme students - Who has heard of Unicode? about 20% of the students raised their hands. then I quickly followed it with the question …and who understands Unicode? Every single student whose hand was

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2015-12-30 Thread Don Osborn
by computer science students at American University of Nigeria. It may be that Unicode figures in the curriculum there. Don Osborn On 12/30/2015 11:45 AM, Phillips, Addison wrote: A few months ago I asked a class of 140+ first year Computer Science programme and Joint programme students - Who has

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2015-12-30 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Andre Schappo (śro, 30 gru 2015, 17:16:09): Does anyone on this list teach Unicode at an Educational Establishment, School, or College or University? In a sense:

Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?

2015-12-30 Thread Manuel Strehl
Not technically a school, but I gave a Batman-themed high-level overview of Unicode at Munich's local JavaScript user group two years ago: http://www.manuel-strehl.de/publications/holy-batman/presentation It was well received, especially for its lighter tone on this perceived dry subject, and