Re: [OT] When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-15 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2003.07.13, 00:19, Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote me off list, but the I guess this is marginally interesting for all: At 21:54 +0100 2003-07-12, Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote: This symbol is called in Portuguese _cifrão_, and most people don't really know that it is also used

Re: [OT] When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-15 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2003.07.14, 23:30, Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about the symbol $: Actually, people do (or did) not saw that symbol as a _escudo_ sign, but rather as a common symbol for money and related subjects. And I'm keeping an eye on how will this evolve as the euro and its

Re: [OT] When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-12 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2003.07.08, 01:34, Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the Euro, a lot of currency units lost their symbol: - the Spanish Peseta symbol - the Pound symbol in Ireland ... - the Greek Drachme symbol ... - the Italian Lira symbol ... - the French Franc symbol ... The symbol $

RE: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Asmus wrote: Unicode assigns the general category value, Sk, or Symbol, [k]urrency to all characters whose *primary* function is to act as a currency symbol. recte: Sc, or Symbol, [c]urrency Sk is for Symbol, modifier, referring basically to spacing accents and other similar

Re: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-08 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:35 AM, Thomas Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Philippe Verdy wrote: Would Euro also be a (four-character) currency sign? Certainly not: this would be a word, whose orthograph varies with language. See the banknotes, where it is written in Greek

Re: [OT] When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-08 Thread Alexandros Diamantidis
* Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-07-08 02:34]: With the Euro, a lot of currency units lost their symbol: - the Greek Drachme symbol (or is it really only a currency symbol or an alternate form of the Delta?) I don't think the glyph shown in the Unicode charts (a cursive ) was very

Re: [OT] When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-08 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:58 AM, Alexandros Diamantidis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-07-08 02:34]: With the Euro, a lot of currency units lost their symbol: - the Greek Drachme symbol (or is it really only a currency symbol or an alternate form of

Re: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Chan
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Philippe Verdy wrote: On Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:35 AM, Thomas Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Philippe Verdy wrote: Would Euro also be a (four-character) currency sign? Certainly not: this would be a word, whose orthograph varies with language. See

Re: [OT] When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-08 Thread Pim Blokland
Thomas Chan schreef: Would Euro also be a (four-character) currency sign? No, that's not a sign, just a name, like Dollar or Pfennig or Rijksdaalder. The original question was about characters, though. I saw nobody answered the question with when it has a general category of Sc. Am I missing

RE: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-08 Thread Kurosaka, Teruhiko
But what does one do for a script like Han characters where those tests don't apply? e.g., in Chinese, U+938A is used for 'pound'--is that a word, or a currency sign? U+5713 or U+5143 for 'yuan'? Etc. Are they invented exclusively for the purpose of expressing the currencies? I am not

RE: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-08 Thread Asmus Freytag
Unicode assigns the general category value, Sk, or Symbol, [k]urrency to all characters whose *primary* function is to act as a currency symbol. That excludes all characters that have other, unrelated uses, as long as those are not more specialized than the use as currency sign. That's an

When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Tex Texin
I had a couple people comment on the currency page that U+5186 is not a yen sign but a character. I see it used regularly as a currency symbol instead of U+00A5. Is there a distinction between the two? When is a character properly called a currency sign? The page has had a number of updates

Re: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Michael Everson
At 15:03 -0400 2003-07-07, Tex Texin wrote: When is a character properly called a currency sign? Hunh? When you use it to represent currency. DM was two characters used as a character sign in Germany. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

FW: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Kurosaka, Teruhiko
Forgot to copy to the list... -Original Message- From: Kurosaka, Teruhiko Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:44 PM To: 'Tex Texin' Subject: RE: When is a character a currency sign? Hello Tex, When is a character properly called a currency sign? If a character is used EXCLUSIVELY

Re: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Monday, July 07, 2003 9:41 PM, Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:03 -0400 2003-07-07, Tex Texin wrote: When is a character properly called a currency sign? Hunh? When you use it to represent currency. DM was two characters used as a character sign in Germany. As well as

Re: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Stefan Persson
Philippe Verdy wrote: XEU (the past European Currency Unit replaced by the Euro in a different area of countries excluding GB and DK, Also excluding SE. Stefan

Re: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Tex Texin
There are lots of ways to indicate a currency, but I wouldn't think of EUR or the other three character codes listed in this note as signs. (Although the ISO 4217 3-letter codes replace where signs were previously used, in most cases.) tex Philippe Verdy wrote: On Monday, July 07, 2003 9:41

Re: [OT] When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:57 AM, Stefan Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philippe Verdy wrote: XEU (the past European Currency Unit replaced by the Euro in a different area of countries excluding GB and DK, Also excluding SE. Sorry, I should have named it. But has ever Sweden (and

Re: When is a character a currency sign?

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Chan
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Philippe Verdy wrote: On Monday, July 07, 2003 9:41 PM, Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:03 -0400 2003-07-07, Tex Texin wrote: When is a character properly called a currency sign? Hunh? When you use it to represent currency. DM was two characters