Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-22 Thread Martin Duerst
Hello Elliotte, Just two points: - If you are suggesting that discussion move to xml-dev, can you please give the full address of that mailing list? - I suggest you/we don't cross-post [EMAIL PROTECTED], because it's not an issue the Unicode consortium has to decide. (I'm just

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-22 Thread Mark Davis
is hardly productive. Mark - Original Message - From: Elliotte Rusty Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 06:40 Subject: Re: XML Blueberry Requirements At 9:35 PM +0100 6/20/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
At 9:35 PM +0100 6/20/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | In addition, XML 1.0 attempts to adapt to the line-end conventions of | various modern operating systems, but discriminates against the | convention used on IBM and IBM-compatible mainframes. XML 1.0 documents | generated on mainframes must

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
, and a few of the other languages the proposal lists. But I don't believe there's enough of a need to justify breaking compatibility with existing XML parsers, software, and systems. The XML Blueberry Requirements vastly overstate the case by ignoring the difference between markup and text in XML

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Misha . Wolf
On 21/06/2001 14:37:59 Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: This is going out to three mailing lists. I'd like to add a fourth and suggest that future discussion take place on xml-dev, which probably has the broadest reach of interested parties. [...] The Blueberry requirements [1] are very

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
At 3:20 PM +0100 6/21/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Blueberry requirements [1] are very thoughtfully written and do *not* make any of the errors you describe. I suggest a second reading. I don't think I said the Blueberry requirements were in error, just that they're wrong-headed. The

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread From Net Link
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:40:22 -0400, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: At 9:35 PM +0100 6/20/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | In addition, XML 1.0 attempts to adapt to the line-end conventions of | various modern operating systems, but discriminates against the | convention used on IBM and

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Otto Stolz
Misha Wolf hat written:: In addition, XML 1.0 attempts to adapt to the line-end conventions of various modern operating systems, but discriminates against the convention used on IBM and IBM-compatible mainframes. XML 1.0 documents generated on mainframes must either violate the local line-end

RE: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Rick McGowan
I only have one question. What do blueberries have to do with XML? Rick

RE: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Carl W. Brown
The only reason there's a problem here at all is because IBM tried to go it alone as a monopoly and set standards by fiat for years rather than working with the rest of the industry. Consequently their mainframe character sets don't really interoperate well with everybody else's character

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
At 4:43 PM -0400 6/21/01, John Cowan wrote: Let me also note that it is only *parsers* that are affected by this particular change. It does *not* require change at any level above the parser. U+0085 (and hopefully U+2028 as well), like the existing CR and LF and CR/LF sequences, would be

RE: XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-21 Thread Carl W. Brown
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XML Blueberry Requirements Carl W. Brown wrote: However, I don't understand why IBM can not support ls (U+2028) and ps (U+2029) if Windows can. The only issue that I can see is that they both support a lf without cr. I guess the difference is that Windows

XML Blueberry Requirements

2001-06-20 Thread Misha . Wolf
See: XML Blueberry Requirements W3C Working Draft 20 June 2001 http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-blueberry-req | 1. Introduction | | The W3C's XML 1.0 Recommendation [XML] was first issued in 1998, and | despite the issuance of many errata culminating in a Second Edition of | 2001, has remained