Ar 14:56 -0800 2000-07-10, scríobh Christopher J. Fynn:
"Antoine Leca" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, SMP is intended "for scripts and symbols" in English, and
in French « pour caractères et symboles » ("for characters and
symbols"), a slightly different thing...
Recte « pour écritures et
From: Antoine Leca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Which appears to me as slightly wrong, because the acronym for UCS in
French ought to be JUC, as in the French title of part 1, or even
better J.U.C. I hope this is not yet engraved in hard stone and that
it will be corrected before it becomes
Robert Lozyniak wrote:
If it is what I think it is, I don't want it in English.
How could it tell "aids" from "AIDS", for instance?
Or "joy" from "Joy"(name)?
(C'mon, 11BB, you were supposed to know this one ;-)
Case folding (or case conversion) is the process of changing letters from
one
Am 2000-07-11 um 00:05 h UCT hat Erik van der Poel geschrieben:
Or the document.write can be removed from TR22, but I don't know whether
that workaround is acceptable to the authors.
Or, the construct
prelt;?xml version=quot;1.0quot; ...?gt;
lt;!DOCTYPE characterMapping
SYSTEM
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Jonathan Rosenne wrote:
What about ISO - The International Organization for Standardization? It is common
practice sometimes to keep the acronyms although they are from another language.
Or in this case from no language: ISO is not the acronym of the full
name in any
Anyone know that it is a good solution to choose UTF-8 as default charset in
a Web Site mainly using Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese and English
in Redhat Linux Server and MySQL Database.
Whichever one you pick, some ideographs have multiple
pronunciations, and a lot have no pronunciation.
I wonder if someone could point to a just one Chinese graph in the
Unicode CJK Unified "Ideographs" that has no documented
pronunciation. I didn't know such critters actually existed.
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What about ISO - The International Organization for Standardization? It is
common practice sometimes to keep the acronyms although they are from
another language.
Well, ISO apparently is not an acronym but a reference to
Does anyone have experience with implementing ISO
233 - Transliteration of Arabic Characters into Latin Characters?
The standard ommits any references to the Unicode
values to use for the transliterated characters. In certain instances the
clarity (typesettng) of the document leaves the
At 06:59 AM 00.07.10 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
make us all rich. What about: "The Dark Underside of Unicode"?
Harry Potter and the Code of Mystery.
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John H. Jenkins wrote:
That was my point. (And in any event, since the names
have to be unique, it would be hard to use pronunciation for code
point names and give every ideograph a unique name.)
I totally agree with this. I think the Unicode way of naming the Han
characters is the only
Thanks to Netscapers Katsuhiko Momoi and Erik van der Poel for helping
untangle this for me.
It turns out that there is a bug in Navigator 4.06 that operates as Erik
described. So the problem is Netscape's, but OTOH it *is* related to
the use of Javascript in TR's which I originally questioned.
Ar 14:10 -0800 2000-07-10, scríobh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
One definitely has to be careful with case here, e.g. "Francach"
(Frenchman) is definitely not the same as a title-cased "francach" (rat) -
the potential for diplomatic difficulties is enormous :-)
I thought that the words are the same.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, John Cowan wrote:
No, what I am trying to nail down is whether the LSD is represented
first in the Unicode datastream or last. European digits are represented
with the MSD first and the LSD last. What's the story with Arabic
digits? Without knowing that, I can't
Mark Davis wrote:
Joe, try http://www.macchiato.com/unicode/charts.html. [...]
Or if you are typing in the UTF-8 and going to UTF-16 or
UTF-32, you can try
http://www.macchiato.com/mark/UnicodeConverter. [...]
Or, as a last resort, use this cute manual converter:
- * - * - * - * - * -
The
We haven't used the notion of Planes and Groups. These actually derived, as far
as I can remember from early days in L2, from later-discarded mechanisms that
would let you swap in planes into the BMP. Thus it was important to distinguish
these levels. Planes and Groups are themselves not
Mike Brown kindly supplied some JavaScript to determine the current and
default encoding for Internet Explorer 4+.
This gives some interesting results for default encoding:
Mac IE 4.5 - utf-8
Mac IE 5 - utf-8
Win IE 5.01 - x-user-defined
Win IE 5.01 SP1 - big5
Would anyone from
Jon Babcock wrote:
I was interested in seeing an example of a Han graph that has no
documented pronunciation because I was under the impression that such
a graph doesn't/cannot exist.
Aren't there characters used on the tortoise-shell oracle records that
are totally unknown later? In that
At 7:19 AM -0800 7/11/00, Mark Davis wrote:
However, there are certain units or thresholds that are useful to distinguish
in Unicode. The most important threshold is the one between and 1:
important for UTF-16 implementations (and to a minor degree, UTF-8
implementations). So there are
Speaking for the Windows versions:
All language versions of IE5 behave the same. The only difference in
behavior is the encoding of the base part of URLs which defaults to UTF-8
for all translations except the Traditional Chinese and Korean ones.
The initial default encoding for documents is
Greg Reynolds wrote:
The only remedy I can see for this particular flaw in Unicode is the
introduction of a codepoint to set or maybe swap the
evaluation rule for
number strings.
It is not a flaw. Rather, IMHO, we are all doing the mistake of considering
this as an *encoding* issue. Which
On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, John Cowan wrote:
Okay, I now grasp that firmly. Now just what is the difference between the
ARABIC-INDIC DIGITs (U+0660 et seq.) and the EASTERN ARABIC-INDIC DIGITs
(U+06F0 et seq.) other than glyph shape? The EASTERN ones are classed
as "European numbers" for bidi
Ar 07:53 -0800 2000-07-11, scríobh John H. Jenkins:
At the same time, it would be nice to have a Unicodally correct way
of referring to planes 1 and 2, since there is an important boundary
between them.
Just use the acronyms BMP, SMP, and SIP.
Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta **
Hi Tony,
Do you mean Traditional, Simplified and English at the *same time* in the
*same* HTML page? If so, UTF-8 is the only way you can effectively do
it. You may need to spend a fair amount of time on setting up fonts/style
sheets to get the desired look and feel for each block of Traditional
Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:
15 km SE of Montréal, Québec
I am more interested in the structure that the actual character or
language encoding here.
Actually I think that in Germany you might not even specify the state, so
that you would have only one level. You only specify the state
At 7:54 AM -0800 7/11/00, John Cowan wrote:
Aren't there characters used on the tortoise-shell oracle records that
are totally unknown later? In that case, there would hardly be a
documented pronunciation!
Yes.
(And is anything that old in CJK Supplement B?)
No. Vertical Extension B adds
Antoine Leca wrote:
And my girlfriend was to laugh loudly, because she cannot
imagine Paris anywhere outside France. I am sure that every people in the
U.S.A., on the other hand, certainly can imagine other places...
A brief check turns up ten localities named "Paris" in the U.S., of which
I ALY FND ANMs HRD2 DL WTH. WD PFR NML WDS.
Michael Everson wrote:
Ar 07:53 -0800 2000-07-11, scríobh John H. Jenkins:
At the same time, it would be nice to have a Unicodally correct way
of referring to planes 1 and 2, since there is an important boundary
between them.
Just use the
John Cowan asked:
"John H. Jenkins" wrote:
Maybe they'll start on the Shuowen next and then move
back to pre-Zhou stuff. :-)
If they did, would the SIP overflow?
Quite possibly, depending on what one does in terms of unifications.
But that is what Plane 3 is for. MDIP ("More damn
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To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing embedded software to control a print head.
Oh, by the way, if 12 is a dozen and 144 is a gross,
what are 16 and 256?
272
shoot, its 1 1/3 dozen.
Tex Texin wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about F? I was told that there are 0x10
possible characters?
Oh, by the way, if 12 is a dozen and 144 is a gross,
what are 16 and 256?
1 and 1/4 dozen and 9/16 of a gross.
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Does anyone know where I can easily download the
latest ISO-8859-X specs? The ones at ftp.unicode.org
seem to be dated 1996.
Also, does anyone know which ISO-8859-X contains
the Euro?
Thanks.
Leon
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From: Murray Sargent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
At 12:18 PM 7/11/00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about F? I was told that there are 0x10
possible characters?
Oh, by the way, if 12 is a dozen and 144 is a gross,
what are 16 and 256?
There are 0x10 - 34 possible characters!
All code values ending in 0xFFFE and Ox do
At 01:25 PM 7/11/00 -0800, Leon Spencer wrote:
Has ISO addressed the Euro character?
Yes. It's at 0x20AC in ISO/IEC 10646-1.
There has been an attempt to create a series of 'touched up' 8859
standards. The problem with these is that you get all the issues of
character set confusion that
Okay, 0x10FFDE different characters. But what of
planes 15 and 16?
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Asmus Freytag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 15:30 -0800 on 07/11/00, Asmus Freytag wrote about Re: Euro
character in ISO:
There has been an attempt to create a series of 'touched up' 8859
standards. The problem with these is that you get all the issues of
character set confusion that abound today with e.g. Windows CP 1252
mistaken for
On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Jon Babcock wrote:
I was interested in seeing an example of a Han graph that has no
documented pronunciation because I was under the impression that such
a graph doesn't/cannot exist.
The "beikao" chapter (pp. 1585-1631) of the _Kangxi Zidian_ would be one
place to start
Robert,
I am a big fan of the Windows code pages, they often make my life easier.
However, there is a disadvantage to the fact that even over the course of a
few service packs (let alone a few operating systems!) the code pages have
changed, and there is simply no good documentation that will
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