current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread Peter R. Mueller-Roemer
I found some serious faults (with the implementation of short sequences of combining diacritical marks, Greek and Hebrew with their accents and points) with Arial Unicode MS version 1.00 (C) ...- 2000. I would like to test the newest version of this and other fonts, but am reading that MS is

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-02 Thread Antoine Leca
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004 22:40Z Theodore H. Smith va escriure: Assuming you had no legacy code. And no handy libraries either, except for byte libraries in C (string.h, stdlib.h). Just a C++ compiler, a blank page to draw on, and a requirement to do a lot of Unicode text processing.

RE: Nicest UTF

2004-12-02 Thread Arcane Jill
Oh for a chip with 21-bit wide registers! :-) Jill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Antoine Leca Sent: 02 December 2004 12:12 To: Unicode Mailing List Subject: Re: Nicest UTF There are other factors that might influence your choice. For

RE: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread Peter Constable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Mueller-Roemer I found some serious faults (with the implementation of short sequences of combining diacritical marks, Greek and Hebrew with their accents and points) with Arial Unicode MS version 1.00 (C) ...- 2000. I

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread Paul Hastings
Peter Constable wrote: Microsoft has never used the label 'OpenFont' for this or any of the fonts that ship with their products. speaking of which, *are* there any open source fonts that come even close to Arial Unicode MS?

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread John Cowan
Paul Hastings scripsit: speaking of which, *are* there any open source fonts that come even close to Arial Unicode MS? In what, breadth of coverage or aesthetics? The GNU Unifont has very wide coverage though it is a bitmap font; James Kass's CODE 2000 and CODE 2001 probably have the widest

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-02 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Arcane Jill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh for a chip with 21-bit wide registers! Not 21-bit but 20.087462841250343-bit :-) -- __( Marcin Kowalczyk \__/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread Paul Hastings
John Cowan wrote: In what, breadth of coverage or aesthetics? The GNU Unifont has very breadth mainly. i'm more interested in fonts for testing i18n web app output than looking nice. Googling for free Unicode fonts (no quotes) is useful. sort of, when i've googled for this in the past,

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread Andrew C. West
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 00:38:25 +0700, Paul Hastings wrote: John Cowan wrote: Googling for free Unicode fonts (no quotes) is useful. sort of, when i've googled for this in the past, language-specific (chinese seemed to be the most frequent) fonts turn up more often than not. hey if you

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-02 Thread Philippe Verdy
There's no *universal* best encoding. UTF-8 however is certainly today the best encoding for portable communications and data storage (but it competes now with SCSU which uses a compressed form where, on average, each Unicode character is represented by one byte, in most documents; but other

RE: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Brown
Subject: RE: current version of unicode-font On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 07:51:42 -0800, Peter Constable wrote: The most recently shipped version is 1.01, which ships with Office 2003. ... and Office 2004 doesn't ship with Arial Unicode MS at all! Kevin

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-02 Thread Philippe Verdy
If you need immutable strings, that take the least space as possible in memory for your running app, then consider using SCSU, for the internal storage of the string object, then have a method return an indexed array of code points, or a UTF-32 string when you need it to mutate the string

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread Richard Cook
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, John Cowan xiele: Paul Hastings scripsit: speaking of which, *are* there any open source fonts that come even close to Arial Unicode MS? In what, breadth of coverage or aesthetics? The GNU Unifont has very wide coverage though it is a bitmap font; James Kass's CODE

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread James Kass
John Cowan wrote, In what, breadth of coverage or aesthetics? The GNU Unifont has very wide coverage though it is a bitmap font; James Kass's CODE 2000 and CODE 2001 probably have the widest coverage of any font, though it costs US$5 to use them. Code2001 is freeware. Both of them IMHO

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-02 Thread Doug Ewell
This thread amuses me. I feel like I know quite a bit about the various Unicode encoding forms and schemes, and my personal opinion is that UTF-16 combines the worst of UTF-8 (necessity to support multi-code unit characters, regardless of how rare) with the worst of UTF-32 (high overhead for many

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-02 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy verdy underscore p at wanadoo dot fr wrote: All UTF encodings (including the SCSU compressed encoding, or BOCU-8 which is a variant of UTF-8, or also now the GB18030 Chinese standard which is now a valid representation of Unicode) have their pros and cons. UTF's by definition