Re: Google is [++dumb]

2001-05-07 Thread Jungshik Shin
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Edward Cherlin wrote: At 11:16 AM + 5/5/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of times on Google, the description for the page found says something like this page contains characters that can't be displayed in the current character set... , which is kind of dumb

Re: Google is [++dumb]

2001-05-07 Thread Herman Ranes
Gutenberg II Let the browser download 'last resort glyphs' from a server (better via proxies), if it can not find them in any of its/the OS' installed fonts. http://www.unipad.org/unimap/index.php?nHexCode=900sCharBlock=Mathematical+Operatorssubmit=+++Go%21+++ shows individual glyphs as

Re: Google is [++dumb]

2001-05-07 Thread Daniel Biddle
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Jungshik Shin wrote: [...] You're assuming that the average user would use a MS IE/Netscape under MS-Windows, which I guess is true. However, it has to be also noted that under MacOS and Unix/X11 users don't have to do anything other than installing fonts for

Re: Word, Asian characters, and Arial Unicode

2001-05-07 Thread David Starner
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:15:39AM +0200, Marco Cimarosti wrote: Apart this, I see one problem with your idea of using characters from the CJK Symbols and Punctuation block in classical studies: most of these character have an inappropriate East Asian Width property. East Asian Width is a

Re: Word, Asian characters, and Arial Unicode

2001-05-07 Thread From Net Link
On Sun, 6 May 2001 19:22:38 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Chan wrote: #On Sun, 6 May 2001, David J. Perry wrote: # # Word 2000 (under Win98) insists on using Arial Unicode MS whenever you # insert a character in the CJK Punctuation range. There are some characters # here that might be useful in non-CJK

Libraries for ARM compiler for unicode support

2001-05-07 Thread ashok vishwanath
Hi every body, I am writing an embedded webserver which is compiled on an ARM compiler. I have to support Unicode. My doubt is that the compiler has to have the Unicode library to support Unicode as a server. Has any one out there compiled in ARM compiler with Unicode support? Please

RE: Word, Asian characters, and Arial Unicode

2001-05-07 Thread Marco Cimarosti
David Starner wrote: However, if I understand the property right, it's designed to be used in mono-/bi-width situations like terminal emulators, not in a proportional situation like Microsoft Word. The width of the character in Word should be dependent on the width of the glyph in the

Characters used in programming languages (was: Re: Word, Asian characters, ...)

2001-05-07 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-05-07 6:55:01 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Current programming languages (C++ and others) have violated what I consider good language design by overloading the same glyphs for totally different uses. The most obvious is for brackets and

RE: Word, Asian characters, and Arial Unicode

2001-05-07 Thread Thomas Chan
On Sun, 6 May 2001, David J. Perry wrote: In classical studies, characters with the shape of U+3008/09, 300A-300F, 3016/17, and 301A/1B are sometimes used to mark various kinds of editorial uncertainty or conjecture in a text. The first and last pairs in my list are the most common by far

Re: RE: Word, Asian characters, and Arial Unicode

2001-05-07 Thread Rick McGowan
Marco Cimarosti wrote: East Asian Width is a property that tells whether or not each Unicode character should have the same typographical width as a CJK ideograph. The property may be yes, no, or a few different kinds of maybe. Whoa, wait... Whether or not you care at all about the East

how to store unicode in oracle?

2001-05-07 Thread Charlie Wu
Hi there: I am trying to store some information in Chinese to an oracle db (8.1.6) who NLS_PARAMETERS are as pasted below.. what kind of datatype should I use to store unicode? Is there a way I can store this as ascii/varchar2 and then somehow when my java application retrieves the data display

how to store unicode in oracle?

2001-05-07 Thread Charlie Wu
sorry forgot to paste the NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS output :) SQL select * from NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS; PARAMETER VALUE -- NLS_LANGUAGE AMERICAN NLS_TERRITORY AMERICA

Re: Characters used in programming languages (was: Re: Word, Asian characters, ...)

2001-05-07 Thread From Net Link
On Mon, 7 May 2001 11:35:40 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #In a message dated 2001-05-07 6:55:01 Pacific Daylight Time, #[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # # Current programming languages (C++ and others) have violated # what I consider good language design by overloading the same # glyphs for

Re: how to store unicode in oracle?

2001-05-07 Thread David Gallardo
You can store the information in UTF8, which is the format that Oracle uses for Unicode. By setting this as the db charset any of the text datatypes such as char and varchar2 will be stored using UTF. If you are using Java, JDBC will do the conversion each way automatically. Since UTF8 is a

Re: RE: Word, Asian characters, and Arial Unicode

2001-05-07 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 09:54 AM 5/7/01 -0700, Rick McGowan wrote: Now, Word2000 or some other product, or some specific set of fonts may not be what a classicist wants, but that limitation is not because the width of many characters are somehow CONSTRAINED by the East Asian Width property. While that is true, any

Re: Characters used in programming languages

2001-05-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
At 4:42 PM -0400 5/7/01, From Net Link wrote: #Any programming language that wants to avail itself of the rich set of #punctuation, brackets, and other symbols found in Unicode must have at least #the following features: # #1. Commonly used symbols *must* be directly available on virtually all