Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Gerrit Ansmann gansm...@uni-bonn.de (Sun 31 May 2015 05:01:36 PM CEST): On Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:36 +0200, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. According to the Code Chart for Latin Extended B

Re: Tag characters and in-line graphics (from Tag characters)

2015-05-31 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 5/31/2015 5:33 AM, Chris-as-John wrote: Yes, Asmus good post. But I don’t really think HTML, even a subset, is really the right solution. The longer I think about this, what would be needed would be something like an abstract format. A specification of the capabilities to be supported

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le 31/05/2015 17:03, Janusz S. Bien a écrit : Quote/Cytat - Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com (Sun 31 May 2015 04:56:32 PM CEST): On 31 May 2015 at 15:32, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. I understand the

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Frédéric Grosshans frederic.grossh...@gmail.com (Sun 31 May 2015 06:20:31 PM CEST): Le 31/05/2015 17:03, Janusz S. Bien a écrit : Quote/Cytat - Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com (Sun 31 May 2015 04:56:32 PM CEST): On 31 May 2015 at 15:32, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl

Re: Tag characters and in-line graphics (from Tag characters)

2015-05-31 Thread Philippe Verdy
The abstract format already exists also for HTML (with MIME charset extension of the media-type text/plain (it can also be embedded in a meta tag, where the HTML source file ius just stored in a filesystem, so that a webserver can parse it and provide the correct MIME header, if the webserver has

Re: Tag characters and in-line graphics (from Tag characters)

2015-05-31 Thread Doug Ewell
David Starner wrote: I would say that a system would conform with Unicode in having yellow heart red (in a non-monochrome font) as well as if it made it a cross. Either way it's violating character identity. I'd say that being monochromatic is now like being monospaced; it's suboptimal for a

Re: Tag characters and in-line graphics (from Tag characters)

2015-05-31 Thread Chris
Of course, anyone can invent a character set. The difficult bit is having a standard way of combining custom character sets. That’s why a standard would be useful. And while stuff like this can, to some extent, be recognised by magic numbers, and unique strings in headers, such things are

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread David Starner
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:09 AM Janusz S. Bien jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: The proposal makes me curious about past and present Unicode policy, e.g. would it be accepted if submitted now. Why wouldn't it? Unicode has, if anything, seemed to become more flexible about adding characters that

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Janusz S. Bien
Quote/Cytat - Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com (Sun 31 May 2015 04:56:32 PM CEST): On 31 May 2015 at 15:32, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. I understand the proposal is somewhere in the archives, perhaps it

Re: Tag characters and in-line graphics (from Tag characters)

2015-05-31 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
John, reading this discussion, I agree with your reaductio ad absurdum of infinitely nested HTML. But I think you are onto something with your hypothetical example of the subset that works in ALL textual situations. There's clearly a use case for something like it, and I believe many

Re: Re: Some questions about Unicode's CJK Unified Ideograph

2015-05-31 Thread gfb hjjhjh
Thanks for answers. As of ⿰言亞 versus ⿰言亜, as I don't have much knowledge about Vietnamese and the character is from chu han instead of chu nom, I don't really know if there are any semantic difference between the two, but at least the one usage of ⿰言亜 shown in the word on that dictionary page

Re: Re: Some questions about Unicode's CJK Unified Ideograph

2015-05-31 Thread Andrew West
On 31 May 2015 at 09:43, gfb hjjhjh c933...@gmail.com wrote: As of ⿰言亞 versus ⿰言亜, as I don't have much knowledge about Vietnamese and the character is from chu han instead of chu nom, I don't really know if there are any semantic difference between the two, but at least the one usage of ⿰言亜

Re: Tag characters and in-line graphics (from Tag characters)

2015-05-31 Thread John
Yes, Asmus good post. But I don’t really think HTML, even a subset, is really the right solution. I’m reminded of the design for XML itself, it is supposed to start with a header that defines what that XML will conform to. Those definitions contain some unique identifiers of that XML schema,

Re: Re: Some questions about Unicode's CJK Unified Ideograph

2015-05-31 Thread Andrew West
On 31 May 2015 at 12:42, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote: Even with OpenType it is not easy to contextually create a gap between two combining underlines as the characters are not adjacent (I don't think it is impossible, but the only way I can think of doing it is rather unpleasant;

the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Janusz S. Bień
I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. I understand the proposal is somewhere in the archives, perhaps it is available on the Internet? The only usage I'm aware of (with the exception of my own for historical Polish) is that found in Wiktionary: ⱥ is also

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Andrew West
On 31 May 2015 at 15:32, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. I understand the proposal is somewhere in the archives, perhaps it is available on the Internet? Please see

Re: the usage of LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH STROKE

2015-05-31 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:36 +0200, Janusz S. Bień jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl wrote: I'm curious what was the motivation for adding the character to Unicode. According to the Code Chart for Latin Extended B (http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0180.pdf), it’s used for Sencoten. It was also used in