Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-11 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Tex Texin wrote, > ... However, the fact that there is a rich text solution for italics > isn't helpful to plain text users. Truer words were never spoken. > In the '90s it made sense to resist styling plain text. In the 2020's, > with more than 100k characters, numerous pictures and

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-11 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Martin J. Dürst wrote, > Almost by definition, styled text isn't plain text, even if it's > simulated by something else. By an earlier definition, in-line pictures weren't plain text, until people started exchanging them as though they were.  In this case, people are exchanging plain text

RE: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-11 Thread via Unicode
On 11.01.2019 11:43, Tex via Unicode wrote: Martin, James is making the case there is demand or a user need and that the proof is that users are using inconsistent tactics to simulate a solution to their problem. The use of math characters is mostly to get around limitations of Twitter

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-11 Thread David Starner via Unicode
Emoji were being encoded as characters, as codepoints in private use areas. That inherently called for a Unicode response. Bidirectional support is a headache; the amount of confusion and outright exploits from them is way higher then we like.The HTML support probably doesn't help that. However,

RE: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-11 Thread Tex via Unicode
Martin, James is making the case there is demand or a user need and that the proof is that users are using inconsistent tactics to simulate a solution to their problem. The response that: "Almost by definition, styled text isn't plain text, even if it's simulated by something else." is a bit

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-11 Thread Martin J . Dürst via Unicode
On 2019/01/11 16:13, James Kass via Unicode wrote: > Styled Latin text is being simulated with math alphanumerics now, which > means that data is being interchanged and archived.  That's the user > demand illustrated. Almost by definition, styled text isn't plain text, even if it's simulated