On 2013/10/27 4:48, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
One thing that I have never checked personally, but which I heard from a
former colleague who knew a lot of character encoding trivia and
oddities, is that (at least at some point a few years ago) Japanese MS
Word would change U+00A6 to U+005D
On 2013/10/23 4:22, Asmus Freytag wrote:
On 10/22/2013 11:38 AM, Jean-François Colson wrote:
Hello.
I know that in some Japanese encodings (JIS, EUC), \ was replaced by a ¥.
On my computer, there are some Japanese fonts where the characters
seems coded following Unicode, except for the \
Verdy
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:18 AM
To: Koji Ishii
Cc: Asmus Freytag; j...@colson.eu; unicode@unicode.org
Subject: Re: ¥ instead of \
For ISO 646 and all variants of ASCII (incluing JIS, HKCS, GB...) may be, but
this should hve never affected the UCS. These were separate encoding standards
4:23 AM
To: j...@colson.eu; unicode@unicode.org
Subject: Re: ¥ instead of \
On 10/22/2013 11:38 AM, Jean-François Colson wrote:
Hello.
I know that in some Japanese encodings (JIS, EUC), \ was replaced by a ¥.
On my computer, there are some Japanese fonts where the characters
seems coded
compatibility.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_646
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From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On
Behalf Of Asmus Freytag
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:23 AM
To: j...@colson.eu; unicode@unicode.org
Subject: Re: ¥ instead of \
On 10
for yen, in Korean 원 is generally used
for won, but both the yen sign and won sign are also used.
Some somewhat-Unicode Japanese or Korean fonts have Yen sign or Won
sign respectively instead of backslash in part due to what Kaplan
explains.
Obviously things get messy when copying the backslash
Hello.
I know that in some Japanese encodings (JIS, EUC), \ was replaced by a
¥.
On my computer, there are some Japanese fonts where the characters seems
coded following Unicode, except for the \ which remained a ¥.
Is that acceptable from a Unicode point of view?
Are such fonts Unicode
On 10/22/2013 11:38 AM, Jean-François Colson wrote:
Hello.
I know that in some Japanese encodings (JIS, EUC), \ was replaced by a ¥.
On my computer, there are some Japanese fonts where the characters
seems coded following Unicode, except for the \ which remained a ¥.
Is that acceptable from
2013-10-22 21:38, Jean-François Colson wrote:
I know that in some Japanese encodings (JIS, EUC), \ was replaced by a ¥.
Some encodings indeed have “¥” U+00A5 YEN SIGN assigned to code point
0x5C, to which Unicode assigns “\” U+005C REVERSE SOLIDUS. This is
external to Unicode as such,
display at least (and
preferably) a single dot. Any use of this character that ssumes it is a symbol
consisting in a dingle dot aligned on the baseline seems to abuse the semantic of this
character, which is not a punctuation, but really a styling character used instead of
an invisible thin space
a styling character used instead of an invisible thin
space.
Where is this behavior indicated by Unicode specifications?
Such behavior appears to me to be a non-standard extension on Unicode,
interpreting what Unicode classes as a General Puncutation character as
instead a Formatting Character
From: Jim Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: When do you use U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER instead of U+002E FULL STOP?
John Cowan posted:
Not really, in many applications it will translate in one or more dots
just to create a dotted line
of this character, which is not a punctuation,
but really a styling character used instead of an invisible thin
space.
And Jim Allan asked:
Where is this behavior indicated by Unicode specifications?
Such behavior appears to me to be a non-standard extension on Unicode,
interpreting what
On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 03:07 pm, John Cowan wrote:
Ben Dougall scripsit:
why is it not categorised as white space then? or is it? doesn't look
like it is to me, but i'm not sure how to actually find out for sure.
Well, um, it's not white: there is a dot in it.
i was just querying what
Michael,
As a typesetter on Mac OS X, I see no reason to abandon the use of
the three-dotted horizontal ellipsis character, Ken.
Nor do I. It is fine for ellipses...
And it was encoded for that. But in encodings which don't have
an ellipsis character, it is roughly comparable to a sequence
documents that do not want to
see irregularily spaced leaders, or a dotted grid instead of a true dotted horizontal
line.
Leaders are visual helpers for the eye of readers, they have absolutely no punctuation
or symbolic semantic (unlike the two-dots symbol or the ellipsis). The fact
instead of a true dotted horizontal line.
This is irrelevant to the claims you have been making about U+2024.
Leaders are visual helpers for the eye of readers, they have
absolutely no punctuation or symbolic semantic (unlike the
two-dots symbol or the ellipsis). The fact
.)
A wordprocessing or desktop publishing application could use the forms
and sizes of the dots in these characters in the current font as the
basis for creating its own leaders (going instead to the full stop if
these characters are empty).
Jim Allan
From: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Philippe Verdy continued:
What surprizes me the most in the Unicode spec is that it
both says that its purpose is to create arbitrary length
of leaders
As in plain text, as can be seen in Table of Content listings
in many RFCs, for example.
Investigating some fonts, I found in a version of Adobe Garamond Pro
the U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER glyph being a dot symmetrically preceded
and followed by a tiny space.
In the same font, the U+2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS glyph has a tiny
space (smaller than in the U+2024 glyph) before each of the three
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From: Karl Pentzlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: When do you use U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER instead of U+002E FULL
STOP?
When do you use U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER instead of U+002E FULL STOP?
Is there a difference of appearance in high
When do you use U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER instead of U+002E FULL STOP?
Is there a difference of appearance in high quality typesetting?
- Karl
From: Karl Pentzlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: When do you use U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER instead of U+002E FULL STOP?
When do you use U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER instead of U+002E FULL STOP?
Is there a difference of appearance in high quality
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