Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Christopher John Fynn
William Overington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I tried out the validation procedure on the following page. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/font7007.htm This is a not too lengthy web page with just Basic Latin letters. It will not validate. It is not clear to me what I need to add

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Peter_Constable
William Overington wrote on 05/30/2003 03:20:51 AM: 1. I tried out the validation procedure on the following page. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/font7007.htm This is a not too lengthy web page with just Basic Latin letters. It will not validate. It is not clear to me what I need

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Peter_Constable
Philippe Verdy wrote on 05/30/2003 05:21:58 AM: Private Use Areas are by definition not interoperable Not exactly: they are interoperable by prior agreement between parties. and clearly not designed to be used on the web. Their use in a page to display text clearly does not qualify, as it

RE: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Carl W. Brown
Philippe, Private Use Areas are by definition not interoperable and clearly not designed to be used on the web. Their use in a page to display text clearly does not qualify, as it requires proprietary fonts to display them. People use special fonts all the time. They are more efficient to

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Carl W. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Use Areas are by definition not interoperable and clearly not designed to be used on the web. Their use in a page to display text clearly does not qualify, as it requires proprietary fonts to display them. People use special fonts all the

Use of Savvy logo with PUA characters (was: Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

2003-05-31 Thread Doug Ewell
Peter_Constable at sil dot org wrote: and clearly not designed to be used on the web. Their use in a page to display text clearly does not qualify, as it requires proprietary fonts to display them. I think that is overly restrictive. (And if the requirements for the savvy logo are changed

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Tom Gewecke
and clearly not designed to be used on the web. Their use in a page to display text clearly does not qualify, as it requires proprietary fonts to display them. I think that is overly restrictive. (And if the requirements for the savvy logo are changed to rule out use of PUA, then I could

PUA usage (was RE: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

2003-05-31 Thread Marco Cimarosti
[OOOPS! This works better if I set the proper MIME encoding... Sorry] Philippe Verdy wrote: This contrasts a lot with the Unicode codepoints assigned to abstract characters, that are processable out of any contextual stylesheet, font or markup system, where its only semantic is in that

PUA usage (was RE: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

2003-05-31 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Philippe Verdy wrote: This contrasts a lot with the Unicode codepoints assigned to abstract characters, that are processable out of any contextual stylesheet, font or markup system, where its only semantic is in that case private use with no linguistic semantic and no abstract character

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Curtis Clark
Philippe Verdy wrote: May be the PUA allocated spaces could be divided in normative categories, for example by assigning LTR or RTL base letters in some areas, diacritics in another large area splitted in 255 subspaces for combining characters, and symbols or ideographs in another large area. Um,

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Curtis Clark
William Overington wrote: 2.. What is the situation if a page is encoded entirely properly as far as, say, using UTF-8 goes, yet also uses Private Use Area characters? UTF-8 includes the PUA. It specifies nothing, however, about its contents. -- Curtis Clark

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Christopher John Fynn
Carl W. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that if you have a Klingon web site that uses UTF-8 and the PUA with your own font is very Unicode savvy. Carl It's certainly a lot more savvy than using Latin-1 characters to encode Klingon. - Chris

Specifying the character encoding (was: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

2003-05-31 Thread Otto Stolz
William Overington wrote: 1. I tried out the validation procedure on the following page. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/font7007.htm It will not validate. It is not clear to me what I need to add to the page to get it to validate. RTFM:

RE: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Carl W. Brown
Chris, I think that if you have a Klingon web site that uses UTF-8 and the PUA with your own font is very Unicode savvy. Carl It's certainly a lot more savvy than using Latin-1 characters to encode Klingon. If nothing else we need to discourage people from using the Latin-1 code page

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-31 Thread Christopher John Fynn
Carl W. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If nothing else we need to discourage people from using the Latin-1 code page and a special font to create a code page hack. Yes, I think that sort of thing should be *explicitly forbidden* on pages where the Unicode Savvy logo is present (unless they

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-30 Thread Michael Everson
At 09:20 +0100 2003-05-30, William Overington wrote: I wonder if Sarasvati herself, not one or more of the non-Sarasvati-but-act-like-they-are-without-a-mandate people, could please make a formal ruling on whether it is permitted to post a list of Private Use Area encodings to the list and thus

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
- Original Message - From: William Overington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Magda Danish (Unicode) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo Now that Mark Davis has made a statement

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-29 Thread Michael Everson
I have to say, I think these gifs are pretty icky. No offense intended. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-29 Thread mjabbar
What logo should be used in a software which support Unicode Codes? MJ Quoting Magda Danish (Unicode) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Unicoders, Very often the Unicode Consortium has received requests from webmasters who wished to indicate with a logo or banner that their site supports or uses

RE: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-29 Thread Alok Kumar
Hi List, http://www.unicode.org/consortium/unisavvy.html. This is nice. Just one question: I'd like to have it in another language+script. How about it? Would you accept contributions in the same style, with Unicode Savvy written in another language+script? Alok attachment: winmail.dat

Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo

2003-05-27 Thread Magda Danish \(Unicode\)
Title: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo Dear Unicoders, Very often the Unicode Consortium has received requests from webmasters who wished to indicate with a logo or banner that their site supports or uses Unicode. For such purposes we have developed two logos that can be freely