Re: Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-21 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Hello Karl, On 2012/07/21 0:41, Karl Pentzlin wrote: Looking for an example of plain text which is obvious to anybody, it seems to me that the Subject field of e-mails is a good example. Common e-mail software lets you enter any text but gives you never access to any higher-level protocol.

Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-20 Thread Karl Pentzlin
Looking for an example of plain text which is obvious to anybody, it seems to me that the Subject field of e-mails is a good example. Common e-mail software lets you enter any text but gives you never access to any higher-level protocol. Possibly you can select the font in which the subject line

Re: Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-20 Thread Philippe Verdy
The Subject filed is subject to special encoding like Quoted-Printable or Base64 using specific prefixes. This is necessary because the MIME headers spreciying the ail encoding only applies to the mail body but not to the headers themselves. For this reason it is not stricly plain text.

Re: Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-20 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 7/20/2012 8:41 AM, Karl Pentzlin wrote: Looking for an example of plain text which is obvious to anybody, it seems to me that the Subject field of e-mails is a good example. By common convention, certain notational features have been relegated to styled text. Super and subscript in

Re: Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-20 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-20 19:52, Philippe Verdy wrote: The Subject fi[el]d is subject to special encoding like Quoted-Printable or Base64 using specific prefixes. This is a matter of character encoding. All plain text inevitably has some encoding, and the encoding may vary without changing the plain text

RE: Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-20 Thread Shawn Steele
A) it can use quoted-printable B) See RFC 6532/6530 - Now it can be UTF-8 :) -Shawn

Re: Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-20 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-20 20:19, Asmus Freytag wrote: On 7/20/2012 8:41 AM, Karl Pentzlin wrote: Looking for an example of plain text which is obvious to anybody, it seems to me that the Subject field of e-mails is a good example. By common convention, certain notational features have been relegated to

Re: Is the Subject field of an e-mail an obvious example of plain text where no higher level protocol application is possible?

2012-07-20 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 7/20/2012 1:34 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 2012-07-20 20:19, Asmus Freytag wrote: On 7/20/2012 8:41 AM, Karl Pentzlin wrote: Looking for an example of plain text which is obvious to anybody, it seems to me that the Subject field of e-mails is a good example. By common convention, certain