Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-27 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
on 11/22/00 4:19 AM, Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - AAT/ATSUI (see in http:/www.apple.com). Most of the "intelligence" is in the font itself, which also includes a state machine to operate substitution. The behavior of the smart fonts may be influenced by external user settings.

Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread Lukas Pietsch
Dear all, a lot was said in this thread about intelligent rendering mechanisms, such as fonts implementing automatic glyph substitution and things like that. The notion appears to be quite commonplace to the experts, whereas I (being an amateur) must admit it seemed just like a utopic dream to

Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Lukas Pietsch wrote: a lot was said in this thread about intelligent rendering mechanisms, [...] I figure that people are mostly thinking of the technology called "Open Type", is that right? Right, but quite partial. There are several major technologies for rendering "complex Unicode

Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 04:19:42AM -0800, Marco Cimarosti wrote: - Omega (http://omega-system.sourceforge.net). Built on top of the old and glorious TeX typesetting system. It may becaome (or already is?) the standard for Unicode in Linux. I've never seen Omega used under Linux, nor have I

Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread Lukas Pietsch
John Hudson wrote: At present, polytonic Greek is not supported in Uniscribe, I suspect because no one has determined that it needs to be. So, would you agree that it does need to be? Keeping in mind what Kenneth Whistler wrote: Not if the fonts they use map capital letter + ypogegrammeni

Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread John Hudson
At 08:05 AM 11/22/2000 -0800, Lukas Pietsch wrote: Mind that the case-mapping question we were discussing is just one minor aspect of the issue; the main task is much more general, and at the same time more straightforward (If we leave aside the issue of automatic case conversion and the fancy

Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread Peter_Constable
Let me add a little to what Marco has written: - Open Type itself (see in http:/www.microsoft.com). The "font-specific intelligence" is in the font itself; the "generic script intelligence" is in a software component called UniScribe. OpenType provides partial support for complex script

Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread Jungshik Shin
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, John Hudson wrote: At 08:05 AM 11/22/2000 -0800, Lukas Pietsch wrote: By the way, I wouldn't agree with Kenneth that it wasn't a good idea to have the precomposed characters in Unicode in the first place. I'm very glad they are there, since, as we see, the beautiful